[Turtlepower]

No, I didn’t ignore your post - you are comparing apples to oranges. I don’t think it’s reasonable to compare our situation with Satan’s since he is a fallen angel, but neverless both Adam and Satan did have direct communion with God but were not indwelled by the Holy Spirit as a born again Christian is.

Ephesians 4:30 says “And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.”

The Holy Spirit seals a Christian just as the Bible says.

[pgyanke]

I've never been a fan of proof-texting... so much is lost when taken out of context. For example, Ephesians 4 essentially says what I just replied to svcw... that we are babies in faith growing to maturity... we are individuals growing to unity with God through our sacrifices (work/love/labors). Yes, we have been sealed with the Holy Spirit and yes, this is unique... but God has not supplanted our free will. That is why we are admonished in how to live. If it were as you say and the elect, through the Holy Spirit, did the work of God by that indwelling Spirit... there would be no need for such an admonishment! Only those who are not fertile soil would stray and only they would need would need these words... and they would not heed them since they are not a new creation regenerated. It's a circular argument.

No, all have fallen short of the Glory of God and all need forgiveness of sins... even those born again. And if we can still sin, we can still commit the very failures which caused our Fall in the first place. Your position is illogical.

[JLLH]

“The Holy Spirit seals a Christian just as the Bible says.”

AMEN!! And Thank God it is so!