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To: OrthodoxKirkPresbyterian

Those who will not accept the Biblical teaching of Hell have usually not grasped the righteousness of God. Even in the first century of the Church there were those who would not accept the God of the Old Testament because He was not the loving God of the New Testament that they wished to worship.

God has revealed Himself to us through His Word, both Spoken and Incarnate. This revelation is ours to understand, not reinterpret to suit our own whims and desires.


2 posted on 03/05/2011 11:11:51 PM PST by the_Watchman (Healthcare reform was never about health.)
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To: the_Watchman
Those who will not accept the Biblical teaching of Hell have usually not grasped the righteousness of God. Even in the first century of the Church there were those who would not accept the God of the Old Testament because He was not the loving God of the New Testament that they wished to worship.

I disagree with this. Having read the OT and NT several times, I find that the greatest 'hellfire and brimstone' is in the NT, not the OT (particularly in Revelation, as well as in Jesus' own warnings in the Gospels). In book after book of the OT, God's love and patience and care for the Israelites despite their failings is endlessly demonstrated. The depiction of God as an ogre in the OT and a loving marshmallow in the NT is mythical nonsense born of biblical illiteracy.

5 posted on 03/05/2011 11:22:24 PM PST by Liberty1970 (Thanking God for many blessings :-))
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To: the_Watchman

>>Those who will not accept the Biblical teaching of Hell have usually not grasped the righteousness of God.<<

I’m finding with a lot of controversial issues, it is not the biblical teaching they rebel against, but their church’s interpretation of biblical teaching. Here is a good discussion of biblical teaching about hell, though many will not like reading it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2240648/posts


16 posted on 03/06/2011 1:02:45 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: the_Watchman; The Watcher

Yes, Jesus the living Word of God, not just the archangel Michael as Adventists believe Him to be


23 posted on 03/06/2011 2:07:59 AM PST by OrthodoxKirkPresbyterian
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To: the_Watchman
Those who will not accept the Biblical teaching of Hell have usually not grasped the righteousness of God.

Nor the Holiness of God. God cannot tolerate or allow sin in heaven because of His Holiness. Excluded is anything or anyone who is not holy.

Because Mankind died with Adam, none have a righteousness or holiness of their own. None can attain heaven on their own merits due to their sinful nature, but also due to even one sin added to it. Paul in Romans agrees with King David - None are righteous, NOT EVEN ONE.

Therefore it is imperative to enter the Kingdom of Heaven through the narrow gate - that gate is Christ. For there is no other way that faith upon Christ alone and His death upon the cross paying for the sins of folks like us. There is no other way.

And if God will not accept anyone without that sheepskin, there has to be a place for immortal souls to go. And there is no other way of putting it, but that place is Hell.

It is a place where folks cannot move and burn like incense on a plate. They serve him as they were designed, but not in the presence of pure love, pure joy, and pure holiness of which God is.

Therefore, logically, those who do not believe in Hell, do not believe in the Holiness of God.

47 posted on 03/06/2011 7:05:38 AM PST by sr4402
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To: the_Watchman
Those who will not accept the Biblical teaching of Hell have usually not grasped the righteousness of God.

Nor the Holiness of God. God cannot tolerate or allow sin in heaven because of His Holiness. Excluded is anything or anyone who is not holy.

Because Mankind died with Adam, none have a righteousness or holiness of their own. None can attain heaven on their own merits due to their sinful nature, but also due to even one sin added to it. Paul in Romans agrees with King David - None are righteous, NOT EVEN ONE.

Therefore it is imperative to enter the Kingdom of Heaven through the narrow gate - that gate is Christ. For there is no other way that faith upon Christ alone and His death upon the cross paying for the sins of folks like us. There is no other way.

And if God will not accept anyone without that sheepskin, there has to be a place for immortal souls to go. And there is no other way of putting it, but that place is Hell.

It is a place where folks cannot move and burn like incense on a plate. They serve him as they were designed, but not in the presence of pure love, pure joy, and pure holiness of which God is.

Therefore, logically, those who do not believe in Hell, do not believe in the Holiness of God.

48 posted on 03/06/2011 7:05:49 AM PST by sr4402
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