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To: Mad Dawg
Am I disputing that?

So we have conflicting interpretations of the passages from Galatians.

You seem to be disputing that in your previous post.

A clear writing, with clear explicit meaning, that is certified, isn't up for interpretation.

Oh. Are you suggesting I have never read that verse before and have never thought about it?

I'm not suggesting anything, Mad. That would be interpreting what I said. I never suggested that you had never read that verse before, nor thought about it. You're reading something that isn't there. Drawing implicit conclusions from explicit words fails every time it's tried. Unless one doesn't really mean what they say and say what they mean.

472 posted on 02/23/2011 10:09:44 AM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: smvoice
This is a classic example, just classic. It simply couldn't be better.

I asked, for clarification:
Are you suggesting I have never read that verse before and have never thought about it?

I was trying to understand why you said "new".

Out of that QUESTION, YOU spin admonishments to ME not to read into things!

"Are you suggesting ...?" is or can be a yes or no question. So who is reading what into what?

A clear writing, with clear explicit meaning, that is certified, isn't up for interpretation.

Again, that's an act of interpretation. And what does "certified" mean in this context?

My argument to Quix may explain what I mean:

[Quix:] To take the Biblical words at face value is an . . . interpretation?

[Me:] "Behold the lamb of God."

The minute some words are taken as figurative and others are taken "at face value", interpretation enters the picture.

From this we can see that to decide to take all or none of them "at face value" is also an interpretive act.

In everyday life, when we decide what is "figure" and what is "ground" we have interpreted.

So I answer: Yes.


477 posted on 02/23/2011 10:22:41 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: smvoice

....”You’re reading something that isn’t there. Drawing implicit conclusions from explicit words fails every time it’s tried. Unless one doesn’t really mean what they say and say what they mean.”.....

I have seen this happen frequently on the threads....and without a desire for true dialect rather a means to divert attention from the point being made. Generally means a point is pretty much moving to the heart of the matter so defenses go up...no matter how those defenses are spoken or articulated.


496 posted on 02/23/2011 12:11:10 PM PST by caww
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