[Kansas58]

Actually, the Books of Maccabees say otherwise.

Of course, this is why Luther and others decided that the Scriptures available to Jesus, in the Temple, should not be considered by Protestants.

[Siena Dreaming]

the Books of Maccabees say otherwise.

Your point is not clear.

I'm saying there was a "Bible" before the New Testament canon was put together; that was my original comment to you. The authority of the "Bible" (or Scripture or however you might term it) goes back to 1400 BC.

[redgolum]

Most Lutheran Bibles have those books in them. In the US they did till WWI when Wilson wanted to make Lutherans more like Anglicans and purge them of their hunnic influence.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***Of course, this is why Luther and others decided that the Scriptures available to Jesus, in the Temple, should not be considered by Protestants.***

Actually JEROME wanted to toss them but the Pope said NO! that is why they are still in the Catholic bibles.

They were still in the English bibles till the Revolution when the Crown no longer had control over the KJV. american publishers took them out.

You can still get an English KJV with them in there.