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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Saying that one cannot be saved without a bible *is* bible worship. Saying that by scripture alone you are saved, *is* bible worship.

Who’s doing the saving, God or the bible? The Bible is God’s word, not the other way around.

Oh, and don’t get me started on the fact that they use a different canon. Cause they don’t like books that say, ‘hey, bible worship, not kosher’.


37 posted on 02/10/2011 8:44:48 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: BenKenobi

“Saying that one cannot be saved without a bible *is* bible worship. Saying that by scripture alone you are saved, *is* bible worship.

Who’s doing the saving, God or the bible? The Bible is God’s word, not the other way around.”

That’s a terrible straw-man arguement. Noone has ever claimed or implied that the Bible saves anyone.


57 posted on 02/10/2011 9:02:25 AM PST by Turtlepower
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To: BenKenobi

>>Saying that one cannot be saved without a bible *is* bible worship. Saying that by scripture alone you are saved, *is* bible worship.<<

I would agree with that. I’ve been a protestant since 1981 and have never met a person that believed that.

I remember when I first heard on FR that someone believed that Mary died a virgin, I thought they were joking. When I found out they weren’t, I was so shocked that I went back to the bible and pulled all references to Mary (I mean the mother of Jesus) and references to the mother of the Messiah and other similar scriptures. Not only did I find nothing whatsoever to support this, but I noticed a trend: Jesus was not especially respectful in how he referred to her. He seemed to use every opportunity to make it clear that she was “just another fully human being”.

IOW, the good thing about this discussion is that it helped me to solidify my belief with much more research and understanding.

FWIW, my wife was Catholic for a little over 30 years and her whole family is very devout Catholic. This “Mary was ever-virgin” claim was something my wife says she had never heard of before.


69 posted on 02/10/2011 9:13:50 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: BenKenobi
Saying that one cannot be saved without a bible *is* bible worship. Saying that by scripture alone you are saved, *is* bible worship.

As a protestant who largely believes in Sola Scriptura, I can say I have NEVER thought either of the two things you said; nor have I ever heard any preacher or teacher say anything like that. If you want to assert that this is part of what "Sola Scriptura" means, please provide a link to an authoritative source which makes the claim you state.

122 posted on 02/10/2011 10:25:55 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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