[BenKenobi]

Which is Luther’s argument, word for word.

“trying to get to the heart of something relevant.”

I thought that was what this is about? Unfortunately, beyond one word used twice, there’s nothing to support this view. Protestant bibles can alter the English, but they can’t change the original. All the original says is that Paul said that the dead were resting, and Luther’s opinion has no basis in scripture.

I have been put under, and I don’t think that’s what it’s like at all. I think we are well aware, more aware than we’ve ever been of what is happening and what is going to happen. It’s like the falling away of our binds etc. There have been people who have experienced near death, and their reports have quite a few similarities.

[RobRoy]

>>I have been put under, and I don’t think that’s what it’s like at all. I think we are well aware, more aware than we’ve ever been of what is happening and what is going to happen. It’s like the falling away of our binds etc.<<

So, we differ on what it will be like. If the Lord waits until after both of us have died, then we will find out for sure. ;)

>>There have been people who have experienced near death, and their reports have quite a few similarities.<<

But none of them died. Sure, they were “clinically dead” but they didn’t die. They were “near death” and their brains were all going through the process that precedes REAL death, but they did not die. Near death and death are two utterly different things. And sure they all had similar experiences - They all had human physiology.

I think crop circles are more interesting.