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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Reading what Calvin himself wrote then reading about him is what convinced me that Protestantism hadn't gone off track, it had never been on track.

Catholics aren't real big on evangelism though, are they? I think there are hordes of people in the same place I was but who never hear anything about the Catholic Church other than misinformation from the misinformed or outright anti-Catholic lies from people intent not on the saving of those who are Catholic but on destroying the Church.

82 posted on 02/08/2011 4:40:08 PM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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we used to be! don’t forget, at one point the whole Roman Empire was pagan, in addition, Ireland, England, Germany, the Slavic people, the Nordic region, South America, Africa, Asia. the Church has lost its missionary zeal, it has been replaced by a powerless social gospel, it’s why the Cathedrals of Europe are like museums and this country will soon be the same way. don’t forget, we are all missionaries for Christ, witness for Christ always ( and sometimes use words! )


83 posted on 02/08/2011 4:46:22 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Rashputin; one Lord one faith one baptism

Rash-””I think there are hordes of people in the same place I was but who never hear anything about the Catholic Church other than misinformation from the misinformed or outright anti-Catholic lies from people intent not on the saving of those who are Catholic but on destroying the Church.””

The late Fulton Sheen summed this up beautifully on the mistakes people make who are misinformed.

“There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church, which is, of course, quite a different thing.

If I were not a Catholic, and were looking for the true Church in the world today, I would look for the one Church which did not get along well with the world; in other words, I would look for the Church which the world hates.

My reason for this would be, that if Christ is in any one of the churches of the world today, He must still be hated as He was when He was on earth in the flesh.

If you would find Christ today, then find the Church that does not get along with the world.

Look for the Church that is hated by the world, as Christ was hated by the world. Look for the Church which is accused of being behind the times, as Our Lord was accused of being ignorant and never having learned.

Look for the Church which men sneer at as socially inferior, as they sneered at Our Lord because He came from Nazareth. Look for the Church which is accused of having a devil, as Our Lord was accused of being posessed by Beelzebub, the Prince of Devils.

Look for the Church which, in season of bigotry, men say must be destroyed in the name of God as men crucified Christ and thought they had done a service to God.

Look for the Church which the world rejects because it claims it is infallible, as Pilate rejected Christ because He called Himself the Truth. Look for the Church which is rejected by the world as Our Lord was rejected by men.

Look for the Church which amid the confusion of conflicting opinions, its members love as they love Christ, and respect it’s Voice as the Voice of it’s Founder, and the suspicion will grow, that if the Church is unpopular with the spirit of the world, then it is unworldly and if it is unworldly it is other-worldly...”

FULTON SHEEN


86 posted on 02/08/2011 5:38:23 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Rashputin
The shallow thinkers who follow the originator of these sola scriptura threads are really bathing themselves in sinful pride of individual interpretation. They obfuscate and contort sacred scripture to align with their own prideful interpretation of scripture but see no hypocrisy in their criticism of the LDS and Jehovah Witnesses.

Yet anyone who reads the garbage that they offer either laughs or become livid at their audacity.

These sola scriptura types read the early church fathers and must twist the fathers' words since these same fathers have become a significant reason why many who exercise critical analysis are converting to Catholicism after studying these same fathers.

91 posted on 02/08/2011 6:01:19 PM PST by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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