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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Well, I thought Peter’s explanation to Cornelius was simple, but I’ll try to explain in other words.

**The Church has always taught and believed that Jesus was always fully God and He became fully man when the Holy Spirit overshadowed the Virgin Mary. is this your belief?**

To answer that yes or no doesn’t make it clear since I am trying to show you that the divine nature has never been three, separate, eternal beings.

With the almost countless references in scripture of God referring to himself, and prophets referring to him, IN the singular (I’m not going to even try to count the I, me, mine, myself, he, his, himself), anything in the plural form is just making it clear that he is just sharing himself with his creation.

Mary was used to help make the tabernacle of flesh that God would put a soul in (God made that part 100%), and would dwell in (remember,”The Father that dwelleth in me..”). The flesh and soul was not left in the grave (Acts 2:27,31). What Mary helped to make was given an earthly mind like you and me, that would says things such as “take this cup from me..”, “I thirst”, or “my Father is greater than I”. What Mary helped make could not survive the cross, and died. But of course, God raised up Christ and dwells in him again, as he did before the cross.

Jesus Christ is the God-created, sinless man, filled without measure with the one and only Spirit of the living God, and is THE image of that invisible God.

When someone is REALLY and TRULY filled with the Holy Ghost, the recipient has such a supernatural experience that he/she realizes that another ‘force’ has moved in, giving that person a dual nature similar to Jesus Christ. The Lord explains this in John 14:16-26 to his disciples when talking about the coming of the ‘Comforter’ (which is really “Christ in you, the hope of glory”.), with this verse in particular:

“At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I IN YOU”. John 14:20

**also, who was the one in history that re-discovered this truth about God after the apostacy that crept into the early Church?**

The truth has always been available, but few there be that find it. As I said, the 7 churches show a wide range of persecution. Even John Calvin saw it fit to execute a man (who’s actual views, I haven’t studied, but will sometime) that didn’t believe in trinitarian doctrine.

Chaotic church behavior and doctrine muddling didn’t wait long to get started, just look at the rebukes Paul gives in his epistles, 1 Corinthians and Galatians.

Hopefully this makes what I believe somewhat clearer, whether you agree with it or not.

Lord bless


209 posted on 02/13/2011 6:26:27 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Zuriel

Zuriel,

it does make what you believe clearer. obviously you know i disgree strongly with what you said, but i must compliment you on your willingness to honestly share your faith without name calling and rancor. this attribute is almost unheard of amongst the various trinitariran believers who post on FR. May the Lord bless you as well.


210 posted on 02/13/2011 6:42:53 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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