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To: AnalogReigns

it is my personal belief that we are indeed in the end times, because we are witnessing the great falling away from the Church as Paul explained in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 “let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed”
the falling away from the Catholic Church in the last 40 years is stunning, like nothing that has been experienced in 2,000 years.
when Jesus returns, will He find faith on the earth?
the two witnesses of Revelation, which is the Church, if they are not dead, they are close. i see a lot of rejoicing that the two witnesses are dead.
so yes, you are quite correct that the Church is falling apart, but there will be a remnant of believers looking up to the clouds for the return of Jesus to receive His Bride.


116 posted on 02/08/2011 8:04:03 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
the two witnesses of Revelation, which is the Church, if they are not dead, they are close.

Where do you get this? The Church is two witnesses? That's the first I've heard of that interpretation. I guess you could say Israel and the Church (Revelation does say they return from the dead... the new Israel?).

Normally, I've heard reference to the Law and the Prophets (or Moses and Elijah by name)... but that is usually taking a Revelation-fulfilled-by-Destruction of Jerusalem-approach. The Law lives again in Christ (fulfilled) and the Prophets are the Apostles and their successors. It's interesting to contemplate but we will know for sure in the occurrence.

As to the health of the Church... it is weakening in western culture, no doubt... but it is strengthening in Asia and Africa. What we need are bishops who will stand up for the Church with no hesitation or calculation. I think it was Archbishop Fulton Sheen who said that the call to be a bishop is a call to martyrdom... not many in the western world seem ready for sacrifice any more...

120 posted on 02/08/2011 8:18:19 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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