[conservativegramma]

Exactly. One other thing I'm struck with in reading through John 8. One of the many sections where Jesus was confronted by the shall we say 'religious magisterium' of His day - the Scribes and Pharisees. Notice their response in v. 6 to Christ's teaching:

"They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground."

Also at the end of v. 13 - they attack him claiming "Your testimony is not true."

Then again in v. 59, "Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him,....."

We stand in some pretty good company I think.

[metmom]

Someone mentioned this before and the more I think about it, the more I realize it’s true.

The real issue is a matter of authority.

Is a church the final authority?

Or is Scripture?

Scripture condemns the Catholic church in several areas, which is apparently why it tries to hard to claim authorship of it. That way it makes Scripture subservient to it.

The popes of history have been shown to be evil, corrupt men. The popes of today don’t display that kind of corruption and depravity, but are certainly lacking in discernment, which they would have if they sought it and followed Scripture.

Truth does not compromise with lies or error.

[presently no screen name]

Good observation while taking God’s Word and applying it to real life situations, as we should. I’m going to read and meditate a bit on John 8 now - so thank you!!