[wmfights]

It’s becoming very obvious that you think that it’s baptism that saves not Jesus sacrifice on the cross.

I don't know how this claim gets made when the argument has always been Belief first then Baptism.

Your obsession with baptism is the least of your problems.

Actually, I believe it was DR.E. that brought up infant baptism. It is a carry over in the Reformation Churches from the Roman Church.

[CynicalBear]

>> I don’t know how this claim gets made when the argument has always been Belief first then Baptism.<<

So do you believe that baptism is necessary for salvation?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I believe it was DR.E. that brought up infant baptism.

Nope. I don't think so. I try very hard not to bring this into discussions about the Reformation, etc., because I think it accomplishes exactly what some malcontents intended it to do - divide the faithful.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

In fact, in tracing it back, I would bet it was a Roman Catholic who brought up this division among Protestants first on this (and other) threads.

And they keep bringing it up.

[roamer_1]

Actually, I believe it was DR.E. that brought up infant baptism.

**SIGH**. No, I must confess that it was me... *again*... made in passing, to you:

In my observation, those things are specifically the parts of Rome which were not rejected (Baptism v. Infant Baptism springs readily to mind as an example)...

Src (#498)

It is a carry over in the Reformation Churches from the Roman Church.

Quite, and a rather cursory search will show that they got it right out of Paganism.