Posted on 02/05/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by Gamecock
If it were not for John 6 they would probably say John was nuts..
Did I stutter? Sadly many are not.
Do they believe in the hierarchy of Scripture and place the actual words, works, and examples given by Christ an exaulted position within the revealed word or do they simply relegate Christ to the one who prepared the way for St. Paul's new Good News?
Do they believe in the Real Presence during the Eucharist or do they believe that the following of Christ's actual words is an abomination?
DO they solidly believe in the Trinity with the co-equal beings of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit?
Do they believe that Mary was preserved pure from Birth or do they believe that Jesus was produced from a filthy vessel?
Shall I go on or do you get the picture?
Was Jesus predestined?
nothing wrong with John, since the Church placed it in the canon of Scripture. without the Church which both of you enjoy attacking, you would not even have the book to read. thank a monk, next time you see one!
Ooops.
I’m slipping here.
900 posts and counting and still waiting for some Catholic to tell us what in the article this thread is about is a lie or slander.
I forgot, you guys believe that the Synoptic Gospels were intended only for the Jews and rarely, if ever, read them....What on earth was I thinking?
Don't be ridiculous or blasphemous. Jesus is God.
do you wonder why Jews don’t comment on the Elders of Zion? why comment on obvious trash??
>> Do they believe that Mary was preserved pure from Birth or do they believe that Jesus was produced from a filthy vessel?<<
Are you saying that Jesus was not the only sinless person on earth? If Mary was sinless shouldnt her parents have been sinless? If Mary was born sinless from sinful parents why couldnt Jesus have been born sinless from sinful parents?
Many are called but few chosen (Matt. 20: 16, 23: 14); for the elects’ sake the days of tribulation shall be shortened (Matt.24: 22; Mark 23: 20). “Shall not God avenge His own elect?” (Luke 18:7). For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect.(Mar 13:22)
lol. When RC apologists have NO evidence to support their claims, they resort to compounding fantasy with more fabrications.
RCs do not appear to read their Bibles because when asked for support for their beliefs, they usually fall back on church fathers and magisterical pronouncements and edicts from various popes.
As far as your accusation is concerned, all any lurker has to do is read back over the threads and see who posts Scripture to support their beliefs. Scripture from the OT and NT, from the first three Gospels and the fourth Gospel, from Paul and Peter and Luke and John, knowing full well that "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
Given that you've now been shown that Cronos' post was pulled, are you still moved to defend it?
because Jesus is God and Mary is not.
( sorry to burst the fantasies of many here who wish we taught differently!! )
gee, i guess there must not have been any elect until the 16th century, because there sure were a lot of people fooled before then!
That post was on a completely different thread. Since you are such an expert on Forum Rules perhaps you can remind me and the mod what the rules are about dragging arguments from thread to thread and about pinging FReepers when dragging them into a discussion.
Seems to me you have two strikes on you now. You better choke up and protect if you want to remain on this thread.
We're not looking for a submissive woman; we're looking for a perfect one:
As you keeping posting, you have no clue as to what Scripture actually means. What standard will you use to to judge others, then? And even here, you bring up the judgement of one man upon the actions of another, yet you have repeatedly over the years judged others’ salvation.
Then how would Mary have been produced sinless from a filthy vessel?
Did Paul go to the lost and say "Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins."? No. Not once. He stated in effect, "I have wonderful news for you. Your sins have all been paid for. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved." Did the 12 go to the lost and say what Paul said? No. They said "Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins."
God's righteousness was not revealed in water baptism. It was revealed in the gospel of the grace of God. It is ONE BAPTISM that brings us into Christ. The baptism BY the Holy Spirit into Christ. It is NOT water baptism.
You seem to think I believe in two baptisms. Nothing could be further from the truth.
If you read Acts prayerfully, you would see what was unfolding between Matthew,Mark,Luke and John, and the book of Romans. You would even understand why Paul was baptized with water. And maybe why Paul circumcised Timothy. Perhaps you would understand why Peter and the 11 remained in Jerusalem while Paul took his message to the world.
Can it be any clearer you ask? sure, if you understand 2 Timothy 2:15.
You still haven't answered my question: What are divers washings?
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