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How The Reformation Changed The Church
frontline.org ^ | Dr. Peter Hammond

Posted on 02/05/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: metmom
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501 posted on 02/06/2011 12:36:21 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: roamer_1; CynicalBear
whoops! ping to #498
502 posted on 02/06/2011 12:36:59 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix

but we have a newbie Firestone tire inquising as to your soul level of consciousness, that’s fun


503 posted on 02/06/2011 12:38:21 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
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504 posted on 02/06/2011 12:38:39 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: IrishCatholic; RnMomof7; metmom

Either post a specific “lie” so it can be discussed, or most readers will be left with the valid impression that Roman Catholics can only discuss things with broad brush insults and are incapable of defending their faith from Scripture, a shame Rome has brought upon itself for years now on this forum.


505 posted on 02/06/2011 12:38:57 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings
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506 posted on 02/06/2011 12:39:44 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: 1000 silverlings
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507 posted on 02/06/2011 12:40:52 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
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508 posted on 02/06/2011 12:41:53 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: RnMomof7

INDEED.


509 posted on 02/06/2011 12:42:36 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host - by the Divine Power of God - cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits, who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

Michael is the guardian of Israel,

Book of Daniel, the Book of Jude, and the Book of Revelation, in which he leads God's armies against Satan's forces during his uprising. In the book of Daniel, Michael appears as "one of the chief princes" who in Daniel's vision comes to Gabriel's aid in his contest with the angel of Persia (Dobiel). Michael is also described there as the advocate of the Children of Israel and as a "great prince who stands up for the children of your [Daniel's] people".(Daniel 10:13; 12:1).) ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_(archangel))

He is too busy to listen to the babbling of the lost

BTW how does an angel get to be a saint anyway?

510 posted on 02/06/2011 12:44:25 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: wmfights

“The Roman Church has often been accused of producing the Antichrist, but I think that was probably more due to the atrocities committed by this church. I think what we will see, if we are around, is the False Prophet will emerge from the profane ecumenism.”

Great insight, wmfights, I agree with you…and your statements about the reformation and many of the Evangelical non-denom churches being transitory. I am a restorationist, I believe it is God’s desire that true Christians be brought back to the original Apostolic faith. No, not back to a Judaized under-the-law Christianity, as the Hebrew Roots and Noahide people promote, but back to the Jerusalem council of Acts 15, and the form of Christianity that is reflected in almost every line that the apostle Paul wrote.

I believe we must go back beyond Constantine where Christianity went terribly wrong trusting in the arm of flesh (the state), where Christianity was compromised, the RCC being the eventual result of it. Back to the Jerusalem council, Acts 15, and the Christianity of the book of Acts.

I realize none of the Papists on this thread will agree with my take of the seven churches of Revelation, that’s fine, its entirely mutual, along with most Protestants, but this is the way I see it anyway. I see them as prophetic of different phases of church history. When reading them closely, they seem to depict the particular spirit of that phase in church history:

Ephesus – Apostolic, or original, Christianity
Smyrna – the persecuted church of early original Christianity
Pergamos – Constantine and the councils, Christianity becomes wedded to the state, and syncretized.
Thyatira – the long reign of “Jezebel,” the RCC
Sardis – non-RCC Christianity which has a name that it lives
Philadelphia – the fully restored church
Laodicea – the endtime ecumenical milk toast church, which wouldn’t recognize truth if it walked in the front door – in fact, it is knocking on the door, but they don’t want it.


511 posted on 02/06/2011 12:47:24 PM PST by sasportas
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To: marsh2
My ancestor, Thomas Cranmer, was among those burned at the stake by Bloody Mary as a heretic. He was the first Archbishop of Canterbury.

Uh, no. Cranmer was the 69th Archbishop of Canterbury. Maybe you meant that he was the first Archbishop of Canterbury to lead the so-called Church of England?
512 posted on 02/06/2011 12:49:51 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: RnMomof7
what, are they babbling to angels again? Dont they ever read and/or believe the scriptures (that the Catholic church wrote?NOT)

Rev 22:9

Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God

513 posted on 02/06/2011 12:50:23 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

They are inquisitors. They inquis, that’s what they do


EATING, WALKING, WORKING, PLAYING, I bet they’ve even figured out ways to do it while . . .


514 posted on 02/06/2011 12:50:31 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: RnMomof7

“BTW how does an angel get to be a saint anyway?”

The guy in the long white dress and the HUGE pointy party hat gets that say-so... didn’t you know???

Seriously though — that is a GREAT question.

Hoss


515 posted on 02/06/2011 12:50:31 PM PST by HossB86
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To: MarkBsnr; presently no screen name
My business is of the human race and their salvation.

Luk 6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?

516 posted on 02/06/2011 12:53:14 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: metmom
Almost 500 posts and counting and not ONE Catholic has addressed the topic of the thread and explained what they think are the lies and slander contained in the article.

INDEED.

I think that's because

DENIAL

Is a river in Rome, running straight through the heart of the Vatican . . . through St Peter's, the Sistine Chapel . . . the square . . .

517 posted on 02/06/2011 12:53:42 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: HossB86; RnMomof7; metmom; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg
*“BTW how does an angel get to be a saint anyway?”*

Gets signed by New Orleans?

518 posted on 02/06/2011 12:54:23 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Quix
Almost 500 posts and counting and not ONE Catholic has addressed the topic of the thread and explained what they think are the lies and slander contained in the article.

Too bad, could have been an interesting historical discussion

519 posted on 02/06/2011 12:56:51 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: 1000 silverlings

LOL


520 posted on 02/06/2011 12:57:23 PM PST by RnMomof7
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