And for that, we will all be eternally grateful!
Posted on 02/05/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by Gamecock
Idolatry, plain and simple.....
Well then let’s start.
Jesus made the following positive declaration, which is diametrically opposed to Roman teaching: 'But be ye not called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shalt exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.' Matthew 23:8-12.
Paul is silent about Peter's primacy. He wrote some thirteen or fourteen epistles, and never once refers to Peter's authority over the others. If such authority had existed would he not have spoken of it?
Paul considers himself Peter's equal. He says: 'I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.' 2 Corinthians 11:5. If Peter had been Pope would he have dared to speak after this fashion?
Paul censured Peter openly. He says: 'When Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.' See Galatians 2:11-16. How would Paul have dared to censure Peter openly for failure to practice what he preached in his action toward the Gentiles, if Peter had been Pope?
Peter was considered only as one of the pillars of the Church. See Galatians 2:8-10. He was like James and John, one of the pillars of the Church, not its head.
No writer of the New Testament speaks of Peter as Pope. What does their silence mean? Can it be a conspiracy against him? Why do they ignore his authority? Why? Because Peter never was Pope. All the apostles were brethren.
James actually was the evident authority in the first church council gathering in Jerusalem. Acts 15:12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them. 13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: 14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Well, if you need to invent what I say in a way that makes you less vile, go ahead. Good luck with that.
Good night.
That’ll leave a mark.
At least I hope it does. Excellent post.
Hoss
How long ago was that?
Giving Mary the attributes of God and appealing to her for salvation is certainly worship.
The whole *prayer* reeks of it.
It’s pure, unadulterated idolatry.
to those waiting for Catholics to discuss this article, you will be waiting a long time i am afraid. it would be like asking a Jew to discuss the Elders of Zion. i can’t piece more than two straight sentences together that don’t contain at least one lie. it says more about the author than it does the Church.
Ooooh. Another witty remark.
Nothing better to bring?
Typical. And sad. Still.
Hoss
>>I know you don’t believe in the Trinity, so you have other issues to work on without worrying about Mary.<<
Would you please produce proof of knowing that? If you can’t you may well be reported for making false statements of a personal nature.
If only it were true. LPL
They know everything, CB — didn’t YOU know that?
All that can be done is twist and misrepresent.
Hoss
you outed yourself as a “Oneness” believer about a week ago, did you forget?
James 3:2-12 2For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body. 3If we put bits into the mouths of horses so that they obey us, we guide their whole bodies as well. 4Look at the ships also: though they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are guided by a very small rudder wherever the will of the pilot directs. 5So also the tongue is a small member, yet it boasts of great things.
How great a forest is set ablaze by such a small fire! 6And the tongue is a fire, a world of unrighteousness. The tongue is set among our members, staining the whole body, setting on fire the entire course of life, and set on fire by hell.
7For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and sea creature, can be tamed and has been tamed by mankind, 8but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. 9With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people who are made in the likeness of God. 10From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. 11Does a spring pour forth from the same opening both fresh and salt water? 12Can a fig tree, my brothers, bear olives, or a grapevine produce figs? Neither can a salt pond yield fresh water.
Matthew 15:18 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person.
Luke 6:45 The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.
“The Catholic church demands abstinence from marriage for its clergy and forbids the eating of foods.”
Good post, metmom, thanks for bringing this out. The context is king they say, your placing Paul’s warning about abstinence from marriage for the clergy and the forbidding of foods (1 Tim. 4) in the context of what he said in 1 Tim. 3, makes perfect sense.
It is incredible that all these priests and nuns have to live under such restriction. As the lead article brings out, no wonder there was so much sexual sin going on among the priests and nuns during the middle ages...and even today, some priests even relieving their sexual desires by using small boys.
In my opinion, such a thing is truly damnable, and traceable to the Gnostics. Definitely NOT traceable to the original church, but to the Gnostics. Which brought apostasy into the church, the very thing Paul was prophesying about.
And for that, we will all be eternally grateful!
Anything for the theological riffraff who count their salvation on the remnants of their teeth and find their beliefs in the arrangement of navel lint.
Looks like you’ve nailed it.
Hoss
Actually, it's called discernment.
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