Posted on 02/05/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by Gamecock
do you enjoy putting words in people’s mouth? show me where i ever came close to making such a statement. as BB says “put up or shut up”
I thought that one was particularly touching.
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If you have, I’ll be more on the watchout for professional pics you might like.
***the gospel of grace was the same for all the apostles, there is no biblical support for your statement. the Holy Spirit is the author for both and God is not the author of confusion.***
Gal 2:11 ¶ But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
Gal 2:12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
Gal 2:13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
Gal 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before [them] all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
No I haven’t subscribed. And yes, that was particularly touching!
great verses, that just don’t show there were different gospels preached by Peter and Paul. this theory is what happens once you start twisting scriptures to fit a 16th century tradition of men, as Baptists sadly teach to this day.
time to turn in.
No, no, no a thousand times no. You must believe The Gospel to be saved. No one can be a believer for you.
>>that infant baptism saves that is wrong.<<
Who said that infant baptism saves? We have said that the infant is under the cover of the parent who is saved thus saved by the shed blood of Christ through the believing parent. Baptism is only a sign of the washing clean of the blood of Jesus.
Paul is today's minister to the Gospel of Grace - freely given to all who believe without works of the Law
There is NO commission of disciples today.
Today, we are ambassadors for Christ Jesus and the Grace of God.
Matthew 28 - for that matter, all Matthew, Mark, Luke, John was for Israel, not today's form for gospel salvation.
CB: We have said that the infant is under the cover of the parent who is saved thus saved by the shed blood of Christ through the believing parent.
My mistake! The infant doesn't even have to believe.
Psalm 37:37 "Mark the perfect man..." ;o)
There is an excellent explanation of infant baptism by a Paedo-Baptist at the site that includes this paragraph.
This is not to state that internal evidence is lacking in the New Testament concerning the baptism of infants. There are four occasions in which household baptism is mentioned, viz., Acts 16:15 (the household of Lydia), Acts 16:33 (the household of the Philippian jailer), Acts 10:48 (the household of Cornelius, the first Gentile convert) and I Cor. 1:16, wherein Paul states that he baptized the household of Stephanus. Credobaptists rightly point out that in none of these are infants and children too young to have an understanding of true faith specifically mentioned. On the other hand, our credo-baptist brothers miss several important factors. First of all, the term household in the New Testament era meant something quite beyond what we in 21st- century America might ascribe to it, including members not only of the immediate family (parents and children,
more numerous in the days before reliable birth control), but also cousins and other relatives. The household would also have included even some, such as servants and their children, who were unrelated by blood to the head of the family. Consequently, the number of people in a household in those days was significantly larger than that in our American families, the average size of which is currently barely more than three persons. It is highly improbable, then, that not even one of these four households would have had children who had not yet attained an age of reason.
http://daviddeboorcanfield.org/Paedo-baptism.pdf
They baptize their infants by pouring a little wat er ont heir heads.
Good Catholic parents get their babies baptized ASAP in the event that should something unfortunate happen to the baby, it doesn’t go to Limbo, or get locked out of heaven.
They essentially teach that baptism is for the remission of sins, not the shedding of blood.
Sorry for the typos. Try again.....
They baptize their infants by pouring a little water on their heads.
Good Catholic parents get their babies baptized ASAP in the event that should something unfortunate happen to the baby, it doesn’t go to Limbo, or get locked out of heaven.
They essentially teach that baptism is for the remission of sins, not the shedding of blood.
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You go girl!!!
You have Freepmail.
Not really following the thread, but
“Of the doctrine of baptisms...” (Hebrews 6:2) There was John’s valid baptism andalso that of the Spirit, which Peter himself differentiated from that of water, as Cornelius and household received that baptism before they were baptized in water, (Acts 11:16) which type he also affirmed, and one is baptized into the body of Christ when he/she believes. (1Cor. 12:13) There is also baptism as a noun. (Lk. 12:50)
Thus Eph. 4:5 cannot be denying what Peter and others affirmed, that there was more than one baptism. There is one common experience of of being baptized into the body, but i think he is referring to the common formal act of identification with the Father, Son and Spirit in water baptism. The requirements for which are repentance and whole-hearted faith. (Acts 2:38; 8:36-38)
I asked you a question. I didn’t say you said it.
What you said was this.....”there you have in one verse - water baptism for the forgiveness of sins and gift of the Holy Spirit.”
If it comes by baptism, then Jesus didn’t need to die.
Forgiveness of sins does not come by getting wet.
Do you have any idea how forgiveness of sins comes?
Finally someone gets to the heart of the matter! Thanks.
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