Pope John Paul II's blood to be relic in Polish church

AP ^ | 02/01/2011 | MONIKA SCISLOWSKA

[kosta50]

I’d worry more about Him being the Judge

I thought the "saved" have already been judged and found "just".

[Cronos]

So, are you saying that articles of clothing can “hold” a blessing?

[Cronos]

So, what do you think of Peter Popoff? Any candor about him?

[Cronos]

So, do you agree with E-S when he says that praying to Jesus or the Holy Spirit is "potentially idolatrous" ?


Nowhere are you permitted to pray, but to the Father. All other prayers are disobedient, and potentially idolatrous.

[kosta50]

Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: for whatsoever [is] not of faith is sin.

Hbr 11:6 But without faith [it is] impossible to please [him]: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Well, if I were writing a book trying to promote a religion I would say the same thing. :)

Luke 24:37-39 narrates how Jesus approached doubt. He used evidence to dispel their doubt. And he said blessed are those who believed and did not see, but he dind't condemn those who don't. He did not condemn Thomas for his doubt. But it seems the author of Hebrews and Paul were much harsher, and much more prone to judgment, than the Lord they supposedly imitated.

And then there is Jude [1:22]..."And have mercy on some, who are doubting."

Seems to me there is no uniformity here, with Jesus and Jude showing mercy, and the "protestant" authors favoring judgment. Night and day.

[Cronos]

Mark: No, no, please don't ask for pictures...

I thought you already posted it?!

[metmom]

I’ve recently had conversations with some catholic members who could quote verbatium teachings or text from the catholic church, but when I asked them what that means to them they drew blanks every time..or at minimum stubbled all over themsleves trying to grasp a meaning out of the air. It was very sad observing this.

It's even worse when it comes to your average Catholic's knowledge (or lack thereof) of Scripture. Even if they know something is in the Bible, they fall back on *the Church says.......*

[metmom]

So with this it continuously raises the question in my mind on why it’s members remain within the church if they don’t really believe or practice it’s teachings?

Because they don't really know what Scripture teaches about salvation and are afraid that the Catholic church is right about them going to hell if they leave the church.

After all, who wants to risk their eternal destiny?

[count-your-change]

I haven’t been part of your latest War of the Words, by choice, but since your post was addressed to “All” I feel I should make an exception.

Just who was Jesus praying to in Matt. 6:9? Was it not to his God? as he said at John 20:17? and as Paul said at 2 Cor. 1:3?

Was Jesus praying to himself?

[Quix]

INDEED.

[MarkBsnr]

Obviously you have no acquaintance with the word of God.

Obviously? You may wish to clean your glasses.

[MarkBsnr]

We wrote it, we massaged it, we harmonized it, and we chose it and we preserved it for all of the heretics, apostate and pagans to sneer at and to say that it does not mean what it actually says. You're welcome.

Truly, I wish you would stop making that claim.

Just because it's true and people don't like it?

[MarkBsnr]

Do you have a frog in your pocket?

Not last time I looked.

You wrote nothing.

Just some English, surely.

I spoke of the writing of Paul who had nothing whatsoever to do with your pagan apostate Roman catholic lodge, and died almost 300 years before it was founded.

Lodge? I know nothing of pagan apostate Roman catholic lodges. I only know of the Church that Jesus Christ founded long before Paul was converted. The Holy Spirit commissioned it before Paul was converted, as well.

The fact that you are unfamiliar with the words of Paul is telling.

Not only are we more familiar with it, we also know what it means. We don't bring brand new and novel interpretations to it each generation.

[metmom]

Not only are we more familiar with it, we also know what it means. We don't bring brand new and novel interpretations to it each generation.

can you say *Vatican II*?

Aside form each pope doing his own thing and changing what previous popes have established.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for all your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!

[MarkBsnr]

Self-Justification, Self Deception, and Self Absorption:

created the Reformation.

[Alamo-Girl]

You are quite welcome, dear sister in Christ!

[MarkBsnr]

Not only are we more familiar with it, we also know what it means. We don't bring brand new and novel interpretations to it each generation.

can you say *Vatican II*?

Vatican II did not bring a brand new and novel interpretation of Scripture. Please get your facts straight.

Aside form each pope doing his own thing and changing what previous popes have established.

When was the last time that the Church changed its understanding of Scripture?

[Natural Law]

"When was the last time that the Church changed its understanding of Scripture?"

Mark, that is an unfair question. That presumes she knows what the Church's position really is. Honestly, have you ever seen any objective evidence of that? It's like asking the color blind to describe a sunset.

[MarkBsnr]

"When was the last time that the Church changed its understanding of Scripture?"

Mark, that is an unfair question. That presumes she knows what the Church's position really is. Honestly, have you ever seen any objective evidence of that? It's like asking the color blind to describe a sunset.

Metmom has described her religious history in some small detail, although she tails out towards the present. However, even the poorly catechized and the sneering antiCatholic ought to know when the Church last changed its understanding of Scripture. Metmom, would you like to weigh in on this?