Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: CTrent1564
>>he refers to the city figuratively as Babylon<<

I’ve explained to you previously why that “figuratively” stuff holds no water and is grasping at straws.

>>“She that is the elect in Babylon greets you as does also my son Mark.”<<

So you, and whoever, are saying that Peter wrote from Rome giving greetings from Babylon. Oh boy. Now that he was with Mark we won’t dispute but they were both in Babylon the city. Not Rome. Give it up. The arguements are weak and even the RCC will admit that there is no definitive proof when pressed.

416 posted on 01/29/2011 8:44:10 PM PST by CynicalBear
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 413 | View Replies ]


To: CynicalBear

CynicalBear:

Does it clearly state in the NT that Peter was in Rome. No, but does Babylon mean Rome as code or does it refer to the ancient city in what is modern day Iraq? That is the question. By NT times, Babylon was nothing of any sort and just an eastern outpost of the Roman empire. There were very few, if any Jews there, and very few Christians during the time the NT was being written.

Christianity and when God willed the incarnation, whether you want to admit it or not, came into the world and grew in the context of Roman-Greek culture. Rome was the center of the world and there is no Church Father, not one, starting with St. Papias [65 to 130 AD], St. CLement of ROme who wrote in 95AD, St. Ignatius of Antioch in 107 AD, St. Ireneaus of Lyon who wrote in 175 AD who does not state clearly and with no hesitation that Peter was in Rome.

For the record, the NT doesn’t say much about any of the Apostles and where they eventually went. The early Church [Fathers] though does attest to where the Apostles all went to preach and where they were eventually martyred [save the Apostle John, who went to an area near Ephesus where he took care of Mary the Mother of God and eventually died of natural causes].


417 posted on 01/29/2011 8:51:13 PM PST by CTrent1564
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 416 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson