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To: rickomatic; restornu

Saved is one thing, the quest for exaltation in mormonism is another altogether different thing.

You need to be aware of the mormon vs. Christian definitions.

http://www.truthinlovetomormons.com/basic_mormon_doctrine/glossary/biblical_terms.htm

The Mormon church teaches two kinds of salvation, neither of which can be found in the Bible. One of these kinds of salvation is an unconditional or general salvation which comes by grace alone without any obedience to gospel law and consists in the mere fact of being resurrected after death. The Latter Day Saint believes that all people will automatically be resurrected from the grave. This convenient belief down plays the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. They choose to believe in different levels of heaven or glory rather than in the existence of a hell, therefore the savior would seem to be of no real importance.

The second kind of salvation taught by the Mormon Church is a conditional or individual salvation. This salvation also comes by grace, but requires gospel obedience, is based on works and consists of reaching a higher level of heaven, the highest being the Celestial Kingdom of God.

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http://contenderministries.org/mormonism/know.php


213 posted on 01/24/2011 7:41:16 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: SZonian; rickomatic; Paragon Defender; Grig

Saved is one thing, the quest for exaltation in mormonism is another altogether different thing.

You need to be aware of the mormon vs. Christian definitions.

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What are you murmuring about

Seems like you are always building strawman.

So many of the antis say they are satisfied with the “Reader’s Digest” limited edition.

The antis are ‘saved’ Christians.

Goodness be happy and rejoice you have what you want and so many times have said over and over you are not interested in more...

hissing forth—many of you antis protesting: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.

well some of us are interested in more of what the Lord has to say and in store for those of us who do care.

We do not berate you dear ‘saved’ Chirstians continue on in your good news and please be so kind to let those of us who want to share and those who want to receive more of the word of God do so in peace.

2 Nephi 29

Many gentiles shall reject the Book of Mormon—They shall say: We need no more Bible—The Lord speaks to many nations—He will judge the world out of the books thus written. Between 559 and 545 B.C.

1 But behold, there shall be many—at that day when I shall proceed to do a marvelous work among them, that I may remember my covenants which I have made unto the children of men, that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people, which are of the house of Israel;

2 And also, that I may remember the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father, that I would remember your seed; and that the words of your seed should proceed forth out of my mouth unto your seed; and my words shall hiss forth unto the ends of the earth, for a standard unto my people, which are of the house of Israel;

3 And because my words shall hiss forth—many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.

4 But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible; and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them? Yea, what do the Gentiles mean? Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the Jews, and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles?

5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people.

6 Thou fool, that shall say: A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews?

7 Know ye not that there are more nations than one? Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the isles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the earth beneath; and I bring forth my word unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth?

8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.

9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever.

10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.

11 For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them; for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written.

12 For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it.

13 And it shall come to pass that the Jews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews.

14 And it shall come to pass that my people, which are of the house of Israel, shall be gathered home unto the lands of their possessions; and my word also shall be gathered in one. And I will show unto them that fight against my word and against my people, who are of the house of Israel, that I am God, and that I covenanted with Abraham that I would remember his seed forever.


223 posted on 01/24/2011 8:45:00 PM PST by restornu (The Lord knowsl the hearts and minds of all and who has clean hands...)
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To: SZonian; rickomatic; Paragon Defender; Grig

BTW that is an anti LDS link SZonian you are using it is not from the LDS source.

This is a one of many talks on Heavenly Fathers plan.
http://lds.org/general-conference/2009/04/our-fathers-plan-big-enough-for-all-his-children?lang=eng&media=video


225 posted on 01/24/2011 8:53:58 PM PST by restornu (The Lord knowsl the hearts and minds of all and who has clean hands...)
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