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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Just as Jesus is the figurative "door" all must pass through to be saved, His "body" and "blood" offered at the Lord's Supper figuratively nourish our minds, hearts and lives.

It's pretty amazing that RCs can't see how Rome hopes to keep its members in tethers by telling them only "another Christ" can perform the alchemy required for salvation.

Read your Bible. Learn the truth.

"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36

835 posted on 01/26/2011 10:56:45 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Out of John 6, which the RC's love to quote so much, Jesus says that He is the bread. While they love to claim that what Jesus said about the bread and cup in the Last Supper are to be literally interpreted, they do not apply the same standard of interpretation to this chapter, except when it supports their doctrine.

So, Jesus says that He is the Bread of Life, and yet I don't see ANYONE claiming that He is made of wheat or dough.

John 6:28-40 28Then they said to him, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?" 29Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent." 30So they said to him, "Then what sign do you do, that we may see and believe you? What work do you perform? 31 Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, 'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'" 32Jesus then said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven. 33For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." 34They said to him, "Sir, give us this bread always."

35Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day."

Likewise, Jesus said that whoever eats His flesh and blood will live forever, but neither do the RC's take that to be literal either. Ooops, all of a sudden, it's not. Catholics die every day around the world. I see none living forever. I don't see any never being hungry or thirsty again. If we are to eat His literal, physical flesh and blood because that's what He is referring to, the consequences then must also be literal and physical.

It's disingenuous to switch interpretation in the middle of passages to make them say what you want to support your favorite doctrine.

John 6:47-58 47Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. 51I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh."

52The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" 53So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. 55For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. 57As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like the bread the fathers ate and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever."

And just so that there's no confusion as to what Jesus meant, He tells us here, at the end of the passage, again, a verse Catholics gloss over, take not literally, or just outright ignore.

John 6:61-63 61But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were grumbling about this, said to them, "Do you take offense at this? 62Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

875 posted on 01/27/2011 6:50:53 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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