Posted on 01/21/2011 12:26:40 PM PST by marshmallow
Thank you so much for your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!
I'm not sure of the source that you are quoting but this is an excellent example of how Roman Catholicism has fallen away from the faith. It no longer believes in the atonement of Christ. Rather, to Roman Catholics the death of Christ upon the cross is an "act of self-giving" of love. Likewise, we to should give ourselves up just as Christ gave Himself up for us. The Holy Spirit isn't a third person of the God-head. Instead the Holy Spirit becomes "love".
This isn't heresy. This is blasphemy and is illustrative of a cult. Christ's act upon the cross was not an act of self-giving. It was to redemptive act of sacrifice in which He physically had to atone for our sins. The Holy Spirit is a living person or the Trinity just as real as Christ or God the Father. His mission is not love but to bring glory to Christ. Love is a characteristic of the nature of the Holy Spirit. I would suggest you read some of the early church fathers on the atonement; not the dribble that comes from the Church today.
It is remarkable how much can be made of "the woman's seed" or the Passover Lamb's bones not being broke, but when it comes to the simple and obvious things, Roman Catholics fail to see the forest for the trees. This is a perfect illustration of the depths of mysticism the Catholic Church has fallen into and how they have departed from the true faith. Without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sin. (Heb 9:22)
Aaron, for instance, believed he could feast to the Lord at an altar in front of the molten calf:
And when Aaron saw [it], he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow [is] a feast to the LORD. - Exodus 32:3-5
God's Name is I AM.
The Olympics is really my favorite sporting event. Although, I think I have a problem with that Silver medal. Because when you think about it, you win the gold - you feel good. You win the bronze - you think, "well, at least I got something".But when you win that silver, it's like "Congratulations! You almost won. Of all the losers, you came in first of that group. You're the "number one" loser. No one lost ahead of you."
-- Jerry Seinfeld, I'm Telling You For The Last Time
The “Old Catholic Church” was never more than a splinter group. As for Pio Nono’s motivation, it was the shock of realizing that Italian Liberals were fanatics who would stop at nothing—and were liars. Jokingly he once said that he and Garibaldi were the only honest men in Italy. As i said above, the effect was to free strengthen the hand of the papacy. German nationalists, like Doellinger, did not like this, nor did liberals like Acton, although the latter did not follow his mentor out of the Church.
Yet it is practically the only counterweight against the secularism that is coming to dominate the United States. Sixty years ago, the American Establishment was Protestant. Now it is secular, even agnostic.
Careful, fellow. You are raving now.
And we are really starting to see the consequences of such a shift toward relativism. Nihilism is the reigning worldview of this secular generation. Just as Qoheleth obsesrved three thousand years ago - All is hebel under the sun.
Thanks for your kind confirmation.
Blessed be the Name of The Lord.
Blessed be the LORD GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB.
That helps a LOT.
Thank you.
This then is the danger, worshiping the creation rather than the creator.
We end up looking to it and not Him. God then becomes a good luck charm or fetish to ward off evil, instead of of all who God is.
Hebrews 10:11-14 And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.
And honestly, the hyperbole that Catholics engage in when confronted with Scripture that contradicts Catholicism is worthy of an atheist.
Speaking of talismans
Some even trust them for their salvation
*shudders*
The brown scapular-http://www.catholic-church.org/apcarmel/scapular.htm
Our Lady gave St. Simon a scapular for the Carmelites with the following promise, saying : Receive, My beloved son, this habit of thy order: this shall be to thee and to all Carmelites a privilege, that whosoever dies clothed in this shall never suffer eternal fire .... It shall be a sign of salvation, a protection in danger, and a pledge of peace.
Another important aspect of wearing the Scapular is the Sabbatine Privilege. This concerns a promise made by Our Lady to Pope John XXII. In a papal letter he issued, he recounted a vision that he had had. He stated that the Blessed Virgin had said to him in this vision, concerning those who wear the Brown Scapular: “I, the Mother of Grace, shall descend on the Saturday after their death and whomsoever I shall find in Purgatory, I shall free, so that I may lead them to the holy mountain of life everlasting.”
SO NOT BIBLICAL !
AMSOLUTELY INDEED.
And I see little kids walking around with them on.
Certain ethnic groups take that very seriously.
GOODNESS! NOT!
More evidence that most if not all such vicionary stuff re Mary comes from the pit.
This isn't heresy. This is blasphemy and is illustrative of a cult. Christ's act upon the cross was not an act of self-giving. It was a redemptive act of sacrifice in which He physically had to atone for our sins. The Holy Spirit is a living person or the Trinity just as real as Christ or God the Father. His mission is not love but to bring glory to Christ. Love is a characteristic of the nature of the Holy Spirit. I would suggest you read some of the early church fathers on the atonement; not the dribble that comes from the Church today.
It is remarkable how much can be made of "the woman's seed" or the Passover Lamb's bones not being broke, but when it comes to the simple and obvious things, Roman Catholics fail to see the forest for the trees. This is a perfect illustration of the depths of mysticism the Catholic Church has fallen into and how they have departed from the true faith. Without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sin. (Heb 9:22)
So insightful, Harley. Rome has no concept of what the atonement really means. To Rome, it's just a feminized, feel-good emotion rather than a supernatural act of payment for sin.
Thanks! Added it to my Favorites list.
ROTFLOL!
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
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