snip: So for the lurkers following the claim that by having created, the Creator is then therefore subject to time – here goes
Spirited: This claim is like saying: “he who blows up a balloon must be part of the balloon and therefore subject to the balloon.”
“The balloon spontaneously self-created from nothing,” Haeckel. “The balloon is all there is.”...Carl Sagan (materialism). “Get in touch with your inner balloon”...Swami Vivekananda (pantheism) “Balloon memes,” idiot Dawkins.
Of course this is pagan monistic reasoning, such as it is. And it is why Scripture says that the pagan’s idols have mouths but cannot speak, eyes but cannot see, and those who worship them are like them.
It hasn’t occurred to pagan monists that just as the guy blowing up the balloon stands outside of the balloon while he fills it and sustains it with his breath, so too does our supernatural Creator exist “outside” of (in another dimension) His creation while simultaneously sustaining it.
Great analogy, dear spirited. Thank you oh so very much!