You’re desperately trying to establish that change can occur without time.
For as long as you persist in trying that, you’ll fail. Change cannot happen without time. As simple as that.
You believe that an entity has the power to arbitrarily remove time while continuing to cause change. This is the absurdity I’ve pointed out to you that you refuse to acknowledge, as I think you’re dogma prevents you from letting you do it. To refuse to acknowledge it in the face of this clear explanation requires superstition on the part of the one who believes that change is possible in the absence of time.
I know what you are saying, James, but you are trying to understand God using your finite thinking. Belief in God is the lesser of two absurdities, humaly thinking. The fact that there was no beginning is ncomprehensible, yet of necessiy it must be.
I say that it takes much more faith to believe that life, consciousness, vision, hearng, sexuality, feeling, circulation, digestion, excretion, etc, etc. can NOT come into existence without the Creator. You believe that it can. The onus is upon you to prove that phenomena which appear to be miraculous are in fact natural. Just a couple questions: Where would bees be without their hives? How does a spider live without a *pre-existing* ability to spin webs? I think that your belief that some undirected evolutionary process begat such marvels is suspect, to say the very least. Bob