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To: PastorJimCM; kosta50; stormer

The First Law of Thermodynamics refers to the fact that energy can neither be created, nor destroyed, but transformed from one form to another - at least until nuclear physics came along and showed that mass can be converted to actually create energy. It tells next to nothing, if not nothing, about whether life can come from non-life or not.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics, for application, requires the condition that the there exist a containment of energy within the system. The Earth, however, receives trillions of megajoules of energy from the Sun and other sources, and hence, the application of the Second Law requires careful consideration of this fact. Things can go from disorder to order, within a system (the Earth) when energy is input into the system.


37 posted on 01/16/2011 6:03:56 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett; PastorJimCM; stormer
It's clear in which direction things have been moving. Science is winning. And everyone knows it. Let's be honest and admit that not even the most religious—save for a handful of nutjobs—seek to be "healed" by having “demons” chased out of their bodies. :)
126 posted on 01/16/2011 9:09:40 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: James C. Bennett; PastorJimCM; kosta50; stormer

>> “The Second Law of Thermodynamics, for application, requires the condition that the there exist a containment of energy within the system.” <<

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That is utterly false.

Containment was assumed for the sake of developing a logical proof, but it was in no way a requirement of the proof. Nevertheless, containment truly exists, since the universe, by all observable properties, is bounded, much to the chagrin of the “copernicans.”


128 posted on 01/16/2011 9:12:07 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: James C. Bennett; PastorJimCM
The Second Law of Thermodynamics, for application, requires the condition that the there exist a containment of energy within the system. The Earth, however, receives trillions of megajoules of energy from the Sun and other sources, and hence, the application of the Second Law requires careful consideration of this fact. Things can go from disorder to order, within a system (the Earth) when energy is input into the system.

But not spontaneously. Work must be done for that to be accomplished.

What is the mechanism that initiated and maintains the work?

148 posted on 01/16/2011 9:43:11 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Define order.


181 posted on 01/17/2011 6:04:59 AM PST by bvw
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