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To: metmom; kosta50; stormer
 

No, it’s not immaterial to the discussion.

Yes, it is. Whether I tell you about my degrees or not has no bearing on this discussion, no matter what you think.

 

You’ve already demonstrated a deficiency in your ability to debate the issue and your understanding of science and scientific terms.

LOL, I have?!! Hahaha! Do you always convince yourself by a process of  repeated self-projection? It's abundantly clear how I've debated and who's had to modify their preconceptions, from a cursory examination of the whole thread, at length. The ignorance of some on the precondition of energy isolation required for applying the Second Law was particulary amazing to witness. So too was their insufficient grasp of what a system under consideration comprises of.

This is what I had said:

The Second Law of Thermodynamics, for application, requires the condition that the there exist a containment of energy within the system. The Earth, however, receives trillions of megajoules of energy from the Sun and other sources, and hence, the application of the Second Law requires careful consideration of this fact. Things can go from disorder to order, within a system (the Earth) when energy is input into the system.

To which you replied:

But not spontaneously. Work must be done for that to be accomplished.

 

Suspecting that like some of the others, you too might not know what you're talking about, I asked for a simple clarification:

Define 'work' and the context you are using it in. 

To which you replied:

You have to ask? 

To which I replied:

Yes.

 

To which you replied:

Do you really need someone to hold your hand through this?

 

To which I replied:

Yes. Specifically, I need you to explain your specific use of those terms. Why the hesitation? 

 

And you went on to ask: 


Are you an evolutionist by education or training?

Are you an scientist by education or training?

 
As you and everyone else can see, it's quite evident who over here is trying to avoid answering what was asked of them, and instead persisted and continues to persist in meaningless ramble that will get the debate nowhere.

 

 

I’ve found that most die hard evos do not possess a degree or training in evolution. For most of them it’s either a hobby or an ideological issue.

OTOH, I’ve found that a great many on the non-evo side of the debate possess degrees in the sciences, with a significant number of them being advanced degrees in the biological or chemical sciences.

Very cute, but it still is irrelevant when it comes to answering what was asked of you. Please go back and try again and produce a proper answer.

286 posted on 01/17/2011 3:12:12 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett; bvw; GourmetDan

If you can’t even answer a couple easy questions like, “What were we talking about?” and “What branch of science does it entail?”, then obviously the conversation is way above your pay grade.

You’ll never convince anyone of your scientific prowess when you can’t manage that much, except maybe your fellow evos who also do not have degrees in science.


290 posted on 01/17/2011 3:51:33 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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