Literalism. Applying modern standards to ancient cultures and writers, anachronistic or lack of context. Not seeing the similarities in the questions that all human's face.
Killed by the same entity that supposedly created it - why create it in the first place?
Is there any point to anything in creation? Is there any justice inherent in the universe or is it all completely capricious? Does the evil we do inexorably harm our children?…
Why was an innocent life taken away after it was made to suffer for a whole week?
Why do innocents suffer? And what, then, is the value of being innocent?
Why are your scriptures deathly silent on this serious contradiction?
Are they? All of them?
I’ll gladly answer your questions, but I am a little busy at the moment.
Pinging Kosta50 to #1429, #1430 and #1431, if you want to indulge, or start off!
Oh, so now you are applying relative standards to what is supposed to be the absolute truth?
Is there any point to anything in creation? Is there any justice inherent in the universe or is it all completely capricious?
I asked you the same thing. What's the point of sulfur volcanoes on Io, or for billions of galaxies in the visible universe? Do you see any "justice" in that? Where is "justice" in the Holocaust? What is justice anyway, except a convenient abstraction, which, like beauty and other related concepts, is in the eye of the beholder?
Why do innocents suffer? And what, then, is the value of being innocent?
Well, if you know, then tell us.
Literalism. Applying modern standards to ancient cultures and writers, anachronistic or lack of context. Not seeing the similarities in the questions that all human's face.
What do you mean? What lesson are we to derive from David's child being killed for being born a bastard? Are modern standards superior to Old Testament ones? What's the anachronism - that at one time, it was okay to commit divinely-sanctioned genocide (1 Samuel 15:3, Numbers, etc.)?
Is there any point to anything in creation? Is there any justice inherent in the universe or is it all completely capricious? Does the evil we do inexorably harm our children?
Not sure what it has to do with the point I raised:
I SAID: What’s the stereotype in seeing, say, for example, the failure of morality when David’s child is killed for only being born a bastard? Killed by the same entity that supposedly created it - why create it in the first place? Why was an innocent life taken away after it was made to suffer for a whole week? Why are your scriptures deathly silent on this serious contradiction?
YOU SAID: Why do innocents suffer? And what, then, is the value of being innocent?
This is for you, and all believers in the OT mythology to answer. One is forced to digest whole sections that condone genocide and the killing of innocent lives (Amalekite infants, David's bastard child), therein. I've seen four modes of "reasoning" that are made with regard to this. There may be more, but these are what I can remember for now:
1. Your god is supreme, and can do whatever it wants.
2. Humans cannot understand why your god does certain things - they are beyond normal comprehension.
3. Silence. Questioning is evil.
4. Combinations of the above three.
The problem is, neither is any effort spent by the same scriptures in explaining what are serious, serious moral flaws - absolute violations of the Golden Rule - and leaves to the human interpreter to infer whatever he or she pleases regarding the divinity-induced killings.
Are they? All of them?
If you think your scriptures reason the behaviour, please do share the same.