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To: D-fendr; kosta50

What I meant by that point concerning dogma is that if there are rival faiths that can compete on basic morality and share similar morals, then it is a case of independent civilisations developing societal rules on their own, and arriving at a commonality due to similar societal problems faced by them. This, by itself, is an indication that societies invent religions. No faith that I’ve studied so far can claim bragging rights to morals that benefit society and aren’t found in other faiths, directly or indirectly.

The Golden Rule would be one such standard of comparison. Practically every religion on Earth, in spite of having diametrically-opposed dogmatic characteristics, have a form of the Golden Rule within their tenets.


1,427 posted on 02/16/2011 12:55:55 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett
morals that benefit society

IF, as a thought experiment, it benefitted society to do just the opposite of the golden rule, call it the iron rule, would the iron rule then have paramount value for you? Would it then be, for you personally, "good" to do unto others what you wouldn’t want done unto you?

1,431 posted on 02/16/2011 1:05:38 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: James C. Bennett; D-fendr
What I meant by that point concerning dogma is that if there are rival faiths that can compete on basic morality and share similar morals, then it is a case of independent civilisations developing societal rules on their own, and arriving at a commonality due to similar societal problems faced by them

That is obvious by simply studying different civilizations and cultures, or even subs cultures (such as variants in Christianity).

Practically every religion on Earth, in spite of having diametrically-opposed dogmatic characteristics, have a form of the Golden Rule within their tenets.

Precisely.

1,438 posted on 02/16/2011 9:07:11 AM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit....give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- pagan prayer)
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