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To: kosta50
How do you integrate that with Christianity? [ cycling universe view.]

There is definitely a one-way arrow in Christianity that is not in Hinduism and other religions. But I don't see a conflict in this instance. The cycles need not be exact repetitions; I really wouldn't expect them to be.

Either God ceased being eternal and unchaningnat at the "moment" of creation (supposedly a willful act)..

I'm sorry, I still don't see that as a good logical argument. I used the laws of physics earlier as an analog; I just don't see your conclusion's logic.

This sound almost like postulating interspacial "dark energy" to balance a faulty formula.

It's postulating for sure. But I'm thinking: FIrst cause > nothingness > universe. If you're familiar with eastern religious concepts, nothingness is different from nothing - it's something, not nothing. You could also perhaps look at the Casimir Effect in here somewhere. As I've said several times, the Broken Symmetry creation model is the most appealing to me. I see it as another way to image the Big Bang, not a replacement for it.

In general, to give foundation to my views: I find the arguments, logic, physics and metaphysics pretty good for the uncaused eternal first cause. For me that's the firmest ground in this quicksand on the boundary of human knowledge and capacity. So I try to build out from there as much as possible. Realizing always my severe limitations in this area..

The Bible say God finished his creation in seven days…

I don't read that scientifically. I also view creation as continuing in each instant.

Thanks for your reply.

1,339 posted on 02/11/2011 9:42:07 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; kosta50
There is definitely a one-way arrow in Christianity that is not in Hinduism and other religions.

What would that 'one way' be?

1,353 posted on 02/12/2011 4:18:38 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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