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To: kosta50
Where does "outside time" come from? Aquinas doesn't mention time.

Not in the first cause argument, which is one of five including first mover. There's a whole section in Summa on "Whether God is eternal" in the form of objections and answers. I won't paste the whole thing here, but here's a part that refers to the first mover part of the cosmological argument of which the first cause argument is also a part.

The idea of eternity follows immutability, as the idea of time follows movement, as appears from the preceding article. Hence, as God is supremely immutable, it supremely belongs to Him to be eternal.

1,313 posted on 02/10/2011 11:34:55 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; James C. Bennett
The idea of eternity follows immutability, as the idea of time follows movement, as appears from the preceding article. Hence, as God is supremely immutable, it supremely belongs to Him to be eternal

How does he explain Creation?

1,332 posted on 02/10/2011 10:06:50 PM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit....give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- pagan prayer)
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