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To: kosta50
"Man's "understanding" of God: God is perfect, complete, finished, knows everything, forgets nothing, immortal, eternal, uncirucumscribed (unlimited), cannot be improved on, ideal, superior to evreytrhting and anything, without fault, needs nothing, lacks nothing, etc. How is that "anthropomorphic"?"

It's all a list of stuff that's made up purely and arbitrarily by referencing "the ideal man".

"Anthropomorphic would be insisting God must be a 'person' like us, casting God in human image."

God did that as per the parable of Gen., in Gen. 1:26,27. He created man in His Image. Your claim is that God was being anthropomorphic before He created man.

Re: "You are the modalist per your insistance on describing God as "Theotes" the greek you claim means persona and mask. ... Oh, divine mask of course

"The nature of God in man's mind is that he is divine, as human are "human". Thoetes is a Greek word for godliness or divinity. There is no mask in an adjective.

You're right, I mixed up the words Theotes and hypostasis. What I said still applies with the word theotes replaced with hypostsis. Nothing you said, or presented indicates the 3 Persons that are God equate to any adjective. He's a Person.

"Calling the Father and the Son "one Person" is saying there is a God behind them; they just appear as Father and Son...for the Father cannot be his own Son."

Gen 1:26,27, "Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

"Paul said he was raised on the third day according to the sciprtures. Three is no such verse in the Old Testament.

According to Scripture(Ezekiel 37) He was raised. I doesn't matter what day He was raised other than that's the day Paul noted from the testimony of the Apostles.

"Ez. 37 is about bringing bakc to life the kingdoms of Israel and Judah and the Davidic rule."

Only from the reference point of a pious Jew.

1,124 posted on 02/04/2011 10:37:16 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
It's all a list of stuff that's made up purely and arbitrarily by referencing "the ideal man"

No, it's actually everything man is not. (aka apophathic thinking). But calling God a "person' is anthropomorphism.

God did that as per the parable of Gen., in Gen. 1:26,27. He created man in His Image. Your claim is that God was being anthropomorphic before He created man

There is no being a "person" in any of that. Image and likeness refer to man's role and capacity in this world: image is the sovereignty (kingship) on earth and likeness is man's ability to be merciful, compassionate, i.e. Christlike (animals don't have it); the latter aspect of humanity was lost in the Fall. Salvation is re-acquiring the likeness of God, i.e. becoming Christ-like, or divined, perfected, etc., according to Christian theologians.

Nothing you said, or presented indicates the 3 Persons that are God equate to any adjective. He's a Person

Stubbornly repeating that he "is" a Peron doesn't mean he is. You can say you believe it, but that's not Chritainity. Christianity believes the three are hypostatic—that is, self-existing realities of the same divine essence (or nature), that is Theotes.

27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

The Hebrew word tselem mean semblance. Obviously an image is not the thing it represents. Man is like a god on earth. The word semblance has nothing to do with being a "person." It has to do with the dignity and man's role in the world.

According to Scripture(Ezekiel 37) He was raised. I doesn't matter what day He was raised other than that's the day Paul noted from the testimony of the Apostles.

There were no bones. There was no resurrection of the two Jewish kingdoms or Davidic rule. The context and the implication of Jesus' Resurrection is night and day from Ez. 37. A real stretch.

Only from the reference point of a pious Jew

No, just from the alleged experience of an OT "inspired" writer.

1,125 posted on 02/05/2011 12:54:13 AM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit....give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- pagan prayer)
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