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To: editor-surveyor; topcat54
Scripture reference please.

I think editor-surveyor was looking for evidence that the Paraclete would not be on earth during the Tribulation. Though I disagree with the Dispensationalists on who the subject in question is here, they claim that the "restrainer" is the Holy Spirit, and indeed modern translations capitalize the pronoun.

2 Thess 2:7-8 "For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way."

Dispy teaching says that when the Church is raptured, the Paraclete goes with them during the Tribulation Period. Now go back to all those passages that make the Paraclete central and critical for any hope of salvation, and we have the complete Scriptural refutation to the allegations that those who remain can somehow find Salvation.

No Holy Spirit, impossible to be saved. 1 Corinthians 2:14 says the Bible is unintelligible unless the Spirit is present to guide. IOW, without the active work of the Holy Spirit, the Bible is a closed book to the unregenerate - past, present and future.

642 posted on 01/17/2011 8:33:14 PM PST by The Theophilus
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To: The Theophilus; editor-surveyor; one Lord one faith one baptism
I think editor-surveyor was looking for evidence that the Paraclete would not be on earth during the Tribulation.

I don't think so, since E-S made the comment:

No, he Comforts the church, but he is removed when the church is removed .

I believe E-S is denying the presence of the Holy Spirit on earth during the futurist “great tribulation.”

All Scriptures testifies that such a view is not possible.

644 posted on 01/17/2011 8:42:27 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: The Theophilus
No Holy Spirit, impossible to be saved. 1 Corinthians 2:14 says the Bible is unintelligible unless the Spirit is present to guide. IOW, without the active work of the Holy Spirit, the Bible is a closed book to the unregenerate - past, present and future.

Was it possible for anyone in the book of Matthew to get saved without the Holy Spirit???

724 posted on 01/18/2011 8:56:59 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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