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To: boatbums
OMG! Some of the verses "agree" with an already established Trinity??? Do you mean that the Jews already believed in a triune God as implied in the OT and the NT writers confirmed it in their writings?

I do not bring the OT writers into the fray. I mean that the NT writings for the most part do not even testify to the divinity of Jesus except for a few, somewhat. Most of them say or intimate that Jesus is a man, favoured of God, a super David. That's part of the great insistence on the lineage, which doesn't really work out - we've explored that one on two recent threads of which I believe that you were a participant.

Or, are you saying that your "church" had already made dogmatic statements concerning the Trinity and good, old Paul accommodated y'all and put it all down in his epistles?

Nope. The Church had not made any pronouncements when Paul was writing - it took the various heretics to move them to actually start defining things. Look at the early Church - each pronouncement or definition of the Faith was in response to some heretic or another.

I can only imagine how much your seeming refusal to admit you might be wrong about something from time to time would seriously irritate your wife. It sure would me.

When I am wrong I admit it. Since I am in physical danger from her, I must do it. I am only 6'5" and 250 lb, and she is all of 4"11" and 105 lb, so I do not stand a chance in a physical confrontation.

3,117 posted on 02/03/2011 5:12:22 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: MarkBsnr; Cronos; boatbums
Hey !! Cronos !!

(Whistle, whistle)

Over here.

A new victim for you.....

I do not bring the OT writers into the fray. I mean that the NT writings for the most part do not even testify to the divinity of Jesus except for a few, somewhat. Most of them say or intimate that Jesus is a man, favoured of God, a super David. That's part of the great insistence on the lineage, which doesn't really work out - we've explored that one on two recent threads of which I believe that you were a participant.

3,136 posted on 02/03/2011 6:35:40 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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