To: kosta50; Cronos; betty boop; caww
I don't think Jews have a concept of hell that is in any way comparable to the Christian concept of it. Who's to "preside" there given that Jews don't believe in the devil? Are you thinking about present day Jews? I believe the Jews of the OT certainly knew about the devil. They had the book of Job, right? Just who do you think it was talking about?
3,017 posted on
02/02/2011 9:58:19 PM PST by
boatbums
(God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
To: boatbums; Cronos; betty boop; caww
Are you thinking about present day Jews? I believe the Jews of the OT certainly knew about the devil. They had the book of Job, right? Just who do you think it was talking about? Present day and ancient Jews of course. The Book of Job is not about the devil but ha-satan (the satan, a title) menaing the accuser. The book of Job (ch. 2) considers ha-satan as one of the "sons of God" (angels).
"Again it fell upon a day, that the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD." Job 2:1, Tanakh
The OT Satan is God's faithful servant, not "resident evil." From the Jewish point of view:
Satan is here to make things difficult for us, so we can overcome our evil temptations, and PASS the test. That is the purpose of Satan. Satan is an angel whose purpose has been determined by G-d.
At no point did mainline Judaism ever consider the devil as a force that could challenge or rebel against God. Being an angle of God, created to serve God (i.e. an obligate servant), angles in Judaic thought are incapable of resisting God's will by their very nature and purpose.
3,029 posted on
02/03/2011 12:02:41 AM PST by
kosta50
("Spirit of Spirit....give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- pagan prayer)
To: boatbums
Are you thinking about present day Jews? I believe the Jews of the OT certainly knew about the devil. They had the book of Job, right? Just who do you think it was talking about? The Jews do not have the Christian hell, nor the Christian devil. That has all been redefined for the NT Christians.
3,118 posted on
02/03/2011 5:15:00 PM PST by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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