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To: MarkBsnr; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ..
count-your-change: By the way, ever find where Christians are authorized to kill those that disagree with them? Recall our earlier conversation?

mm: Where? Book, chapter, and verse, please.

mb: You cannot find in any of the 3 Synoptic Gospels where Jesus tells the 70 that if they are not received, to shake the dust from their feet? Odd. I thought that you were a Bahble Bleever (tm) and knew it a whole lot better than a Catholic.

Except for the pesky detail that those verses don't support killing someone for disagreeing with them. They are no justification for the Roman Catholic church to engage in such behavior.

You'll have to try again for Scriptural support for the answer to c-y-c's question because that reply of yours was an

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2,814 posted on 02/02/2011 7:32:20 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; count-your-change; MarkBsnr
lol. Roman Catholics equate "shake the dust off your feet" to "burning at the stake?"

That idiocy would be hilarious if it weren't for the fact Rome has lived out that lie by slaughtering hundreds of thousands of Christians.

Any corrupted rationalization will do for murdering those who disagree with Rome.

2,864 posted on 02/02/2011 9:15:30 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: metmom; Quix; MarkBsnr; count-your-change; presently no screen name

The church is not constituted to rule over the lost world, and the sword of men is sanction for the civil authorities whose domain that is:

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (John 18:36)

“For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)” (2 Corinthians 10:3-4)

” By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned, By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,” (2 Corinthians 6:6-7)

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)

“For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” (1 Corinthians 5:12-13)

“For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.” (Romans 13:3-4)

Contra:
Pope Pius IX, The Syllabus (of Errors): “[It is error to believe that] The (Catholic) Church has not the power of using force, nor has she any temporal power, direct or indirect.” Section V, Errors Concerning the Church and Her Rights, #24. http://www.ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/P9SYLL.HTM

http://biblelight.net/freedom.htm (site ref for this, not all)

http://books.google.com/books?id=TnqLow3iKd4C&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=Innocent+III%E2%80%99s+Cum+ex+officii+nostri&source=bl&ots=zyZVwp5lz_&sig=LeZ5uuKjTNvNSkngUJNH_P51FZ4&hl=en&ei=KBZKTeLsE8nZgAfBqOTWDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false


3,007 posted on 02/02/2011 7:39:00 PM PST by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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