Innocent VIII’s crusade against the Waldenses wasn’t persecution?
I’d like to see your dictionary definition of what persecution is and see whether a murderous crusade would fit.
They attempted to redefine the Faith. If they were more committed to their beliefs, they could have called their new religion something else. But they renounced the Trinity, and created dualism - the OT God of evil who is at war with the NT God of good and attempted to pass that off as Christianity.
“What lengths would you go to to stop another from going over to satan?”
Prayerfully, only those Christ taught his followers. Try as I might I don’t find killing ANYONE allowed and if you do you haven’t said so yet. Is there a reason?
You would never kill anyone for any reason?
mb: You would never kill anyone for any reason?
Total red herring. That has absolutely nothing to do with the torture and murder allegedly in the name of Christ which the Catholic church perpetrated on people.
It's inexcusable and simply I cannot fathom the depth of brainwashing and deception that must be done in order for someone to not see it for the hideous evil that it is, and to excuse, justify, or defend said actions of the Catholic church in any way.
Deflecting the argument away from the issue does not give any indication that you oppose or condemn it.
So, let's put it this way.....
Was it Christlike of the Catholic church to torture and kill those who it labeled as heretics against itself? Was it obedient to the teachings of Jesus, or any other writer of the NT?
You’re explaining what you see as their offences and that is informative but quite beside the the issue I put to you.
and that was the question of whether there was any teaching, example or principle of Christ’s teaching authorizing his followers to kill or do harm, persecute, etc. those who disagreed with them.
I appreciate your responses about what would I do but that is really irrelevant to the question. No matter what I do or do not it hasn’t any pertinence to what it appears you defend, the killing and persecution of those the Catholic Church deems “heretics” and worthy of death.
“You would never kill anyone for any reason?”
I might if I accepted the validity of your logic and followed the example of the Popes instead of Christ’s teaching and example.