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To: metmom; kosta50; betty boop; spirited irish; Alamo-Girl; xzins; HarleyD; James C. Bennett
God wishes all to come to repentance, but sometimes He gives people what they want.

Which leads me to sometimes think that when a person declares that God does not exist and that one’s earthly life ends in eternal oblivion, then God, having desired mankind be possessed of free will, does not interfere in that person’s belief. Theologians argue over this idea, but the thought strikes me as entirely appropriate and consistent with Free Will.

2,537 posted on 02/01/2011 3:16:51 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: YHAOS
Interesting. Thank you for sharing your insights, dear YHAOS!
2,610 posted on 02/01/2011 8:27:53 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: YHAOS; metmom; betty boop; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; James C. Bennett
[metmom: “God wishes all to come to repentance, but sometimes He gives people what they want.”]

Metmom's statement is objectionable because even if God gives them what thye want, it is still God's will that they have it. So, the "final decider" is God, not man—as betty boop suggested.

Which leads me to sometimes think that when a person declares that God does not exist and that one’s earthly life ends in eternal oblivion, then God, having desired mankind be possessed of free will, does not interfere in that person’s belief.

But that's not what the Bible says, is it? The God of the Bible very much interferes in people's (dis)belief, be it that we are dealing with the Pharaoh or Judas, or with the entire Jewish nation. Most of the Old Testament is God refusing to not interferes in their disbelief by punishing them and exiling them, etc. so that they may believe.

And then you have our friend Paul who basically states that God has predestined everyone to either heaven or hell and that it is a decision made before any people existed. So, if you believe or disbeliever it is God's decision according to the Bible you believe in 100% as the inerrant word of God. So, where does free will come in?

2,708 posted on 02/02/2011 12:08:09 AM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit....give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- pagan prayer)
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