I am not aware of the history behind your statement, but i assumed you are contesting the conservative evangelical faith which opposes you, not some liberal Prots which have forsaken certain core historic Protestant distinctives, as if such must defend everything by that name, or defend one church, as you must. But if are simply shooting at Protestantism in general, then i myself affirm such liberal Prots are wrong, yet those that are rarely cause Rome a problem, as they are in decline, being institutionalized like Rome, and not being the recipient of convert from Rome.
I used the term Protestant to describe PP staffers in general. Now are they all Protestant? No, there are liberal Jews as well. My point is that Catholics don't staff PP, certainly as a rule. A further point is that I don't know of ANY who do. If you can find some, I'd be grateful for the knowledge.
Can you show me a priest or deacon of the Church that either provides abortions, or guides people into having them? Perhaps a survey of Planned Parenthood staff may be just the thing to settle this."
If a Catholic priest views allowing abortion in some cases, as some do, then it is likely they might sanction one getting one.
Do you have any examples? And do you believe these statistics offered on peacebyjesus.com? If so, where are their bona fides?
Alleged Catholic priests support pro-abortion, pro-homosexual groups
And we are told, *Once a priest, always a priest*.
Your 1st charge to me, which was response to one by metmom, and who does not represent the faith which would staff PP, was a broad one (”you guys”, which you then restricted to clergy. However, while it is certain a few examples of clergy may be found, that would not substantiate the charge of “you guys” in any meaningful way. And for your charge to be pertinent, it should be evidence of the manner of faith supported by those who oppose you here. The liberal churches are manifestly far from historical Protestant faith, in both their position on the Bible and thus their moral values.
And as implicit in your charge was the assertion that Rome promotes just the opposite of the faith which posters such as metmom is known to defend, i provided abundant research which shows that large percentage of laity and significant amounts or priests disagree with RC teaching on abortion, and which includes pro-choice nuns.
However, you now demand actual examples of priest sanctioning abortion, but which is not necessary to establish that Rome fosters much the opposite of what she officially says. It is also an unreasonable demand of proof, as to assist in getting abortion means the priests job, as a nun found one. Moreover, one need not actually assist in a crime to be culpable of it, and by not actively opposing a sin one can be complicit in it.
As for any specific examples, without doing further research, you do have men like Fr. Raymond Gravel, a priest in the Diocese of Joliette in Quebec, and former a homosexual prostitute, who was forced out of federal politics by the Vatican and has frequently criticized the Catholic Church’s stands against abortion and homosexuality. http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2009/apr/09042101
And Daniel C. Maguire is a Catholic Theologian and Professor of Moral Theology at Marquette University. http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0202-20.htm
And 40 priests in Brazil who openly supported a mayoral candidate is an ardent supporter of abortion rights, homosexual unions and euthanasia. http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/brazilian_archdiocese_rejects_campaign_by_proabortion_priests/
And liberal priests in the Chicago archdiocese are urging Cardinal Francis George to roll back reforms of the local Catholic Campaign for Human Development, such as Father Larry Dowling, chairman of the Illinois Center for violence prevention, a group that includes Planned Parenthood in its “after-school alliance” and has links to groups that promote legal abortion and gay rights. http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=8184
As for casting aspersions upon the source, which was not unexpected, if you had looked you would have seen that they are carefully sourced from major research orgs, and that there is an overall consistency to them, and such are sometimes cited by Catholic orgs themselves.
One more here:
When asked to consider the statement “abortion should be legal and solely up to the woman to decide,” 51 percent of non-Hispanic self-described Catholics agreed. Traditionalist Catholics disagreed with the statement 71 to 21 percent, centrist Catholics agreed 54 to 40 percent, and modernist Catholics agreed 80-16 percent. About 47 percent of Latino Catholics agreed with the statement, while only 35 percent disagreed. http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/survey_finds_some_catholics_looking_for_a_political_home/
That must suffice for now. Good night all