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To: caww; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...
It really shows the church was way far from God...actually off the Christian map entirely. Remarkable that with that history why would catholics today put so much importance into what any Pope might say.

The more I read of catholicism the more grateful I am for the reformation....in every way!

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

We see the same sort of

RELIGIOUS, IN-GROUP, EXCLUSIVIST, AUTHORITARIAN,
OUTRAGEOUSLY ABJECT, TERMINALLY !!!!DEMANDING!!!!, OVER-THE-TOP
DEMONIZED
!!!!ARROGANCE!!!!

that was demonstrated by the evil and other popes demonstrated on FR 24/7/365 by the more rabid clique types of RC's. It seems to be genetically, philosophically, spiritually indemic to the INSTITUTION.

To be fair, the tendencies toward such are in the heart of man and in all RELIGIOUS institutions organized by man--which would be--uhhhh--all of them.

However, in the Vatican AIWSOTARM, such horrific spiritual, relational and organizational sins have been elevated to unprecedented levels and 'sanctified' with all manner of rationalizations, revisionist rubberized histories and Olympic Class Scripture mangling and fantasizing.

The incredible cheek is for such folks to think that

THEY HAVE FOOLED GOD!

What white-washed tombs, sons of satan, vipers, idiots!

GOD IS NOT MOCKED. WHATSOEVER A MAN SOWS, THAT SHALL HE REAP.

They seem to fantasize that such does not apply to them. What arrogance!

This is one of the reasons I've long been convinced that God has actually facilitated or at least blessed, in some measure, the plethera of Christian denominations.

I believe that discord and breaks in relationships grieve Him, for any reason.

However, I believe that He never intended any monolithic human organization as HE KNEW what a MONSTER that would be short of Christ's Millenial Reign.

Christ DIED FOR RELATIONSHIP

NOT for a tyrannical gestapo ran monolithic, glorifying man (graduated or not) monstrosity!

I think that's a LARGE part of what all the Maryolatry and praying to 'saints' is all about--it just buttresses the monolithic exclusivist mentalities and authoritarian dogma and rituals.

What a stench in God's nostrils.

May God have mercy and lead all of good authentic genuine hearts toward HIM into greater freedom--whether out of the horrific institution entirely or at least into a HEALTHY Charismatic RC group.

1,041 posted on 01/19/2011 8:29:52 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Good one. Thanks.


1,046 posted on 01/19/2011 8:33:55 AM PST by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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To: Quix
I think that's a LARGE part of what all the Maryolatry and praying to 'saints' is all about--it just buttresses the monolithic exclusivist mentalities and authoritarian dogma and rituals.

Yes, it does seem so Quix. Layers and layers of "stuff" but in their minds gives them a sense of religous practice...rather than seeing the face of Christ thru it all. So much just gets in the way IMO.

I'm afraid one day the laity will see they are simply getting crumbs from the banquet table they were otherwise offered....but the leadership is certainly feasting.

1,054 posted on 01/19/2011 8:59:26 AM PST by caww
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To: Quix; caww; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
Christ DIED FOR RELATIONSHIP NOT for a tyrannical gestapo ran monolithic, glorifying man (graduated or not) monstrosity!

This cannot be emphasized enough - The whole name of the game is to return Adam to the garden - A direct one-on-one relationship with God - Which is not possible today without the covering Blood of Christ (because our sin makes us unable to approach Him otherwise).

Good post.

1,086 posted on 01/19/2011 10:57:53 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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