Posted on 01/14/2011 5:57:52 PM PST by topcat54
Can I add “and killing heretics” or is that a part of defense of one’s own?
Pray for ears to hear.
And it helps to actually read the excerpts.
We're talking term papers, themes, etc., but there is no excuse for omitting such attributions today and anyone who tries to sound smarter than they really are by trying to pass off another's work for their own, is a thief and plagiarizer. Not to mention, in this day and age, possibly endangering this very site by exposing it to lawsuits for just the same behavior. If somebody has been warned, they have no excuse if they continue to do it and either they do not care - in which case they should be prohibited from continuing and their posts deleted - or they don't know how to create links. If that is the case, I am sure the Moderator or anyone else would be happy to teach them. Even if the HTML codes are not known, the least one should do is list the source. I hope this is a good lesson to the sneaks who falsely think they can slip it past everyone. Fat chance! Just do what's right!
Yes, but you need a special laissez passez issued by the government of the autonomous government of the Holy Mountain. If I recall correctly, you need a letter from your parish priest to stay overnight and you must have a legitimate religious reason for being there. No women are allowed. In accordance with a "Chryssobul" issued by the Byzantine Emperor Constantine Monomahos, in 1060 A.D. which still remains valid, a permit is required for both individuals and groups. This is issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Directorate of Churches (at No 2, Zalokosta Street, in Athens, tel: 3626.894) or by the Ministry of Northern Greece, Directorate of Civil Affairs at Diiki- tiriou Square in Thessaloniki, tel. 031/270.092.
No deal!
Very accurate description of the situation, Teacher!
Gold star! 8~)
It is pertinent to my point.
My point being, and I shouldn’t have to explain it as obvious as it is, is that the religious background of the presidents makes little difference in U.S. foreign policy.
My contention that it is and it is directly responsible for the eradication of Christian Catholics in the Middle East. The last few Protestants perpetrated it and the current either Protestant or more like Muslim is upping the ante.
Thank you, we are in agreement then but that really has nothing to say about whether the aforesaid is accurate in what it says reflecting Catholic belief and practice. If it is not I’m sure you can point that out.
My practice is to go to the USCCB or Vatican website if I am in doubt.
The Not So Secret RaptureAs far as the original subject of it all is concerned, it's more than obvious that Calvinists as a group (as well as its founder) consider the circle representing Calvinism to perfectly overlap the circle representing Christianity (as I've demonstrated multiple times in a previous post). If not, they wouldn't characterize Roman Catholics, and everyone else not Calvinist but claiming to be Christian, as heretics and have felt themselves justified numerous times over the past few centuries in Europe in persecuting them, outlawing them, jailing them, confiscating their property, and even taking their lives in the name of their version of Christianity. Just as a reminder, let me provide you a quote from the leader of the pack in his Defense of the Orthodox Belief of the Sacred Trinity against the Prodigious Errors of Michael Servetus.
February 2, 2011 1:48:59 AM CST · 2,701 of 2,946
Dr. Eckleburg to Cronos; aruanan
And of course they believe that Christianiy [sic]=Calvinism ONLY
You've misstated me [sic] post again.
I, nor anyone here, has written the word "only" in that sentence. Only you.
Do either of you believe Roman Catholicism = Christianity?
Are you ashamed of your beliefs?
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"Whoever shall maintain that wrong is done to heretics and blasphemers in punishing them makes himself an accomplice in their crime and guilty as they are. There is no question here of man's authority; it is God who speaks, and clear it is what law he will have kept in the church, even to the end of the world. Wherefore does he demand of us a so extreme severity, if not to show us that due honor is not paid him, so long as we set not his service above every human consideration, so that we spare not kin, nor blood of any, and forget all humanity when the matter is to combat for His glory." as quoted in History of Political Thought in the Sixteenth Century, J.W. Allen, London, 1951, p. 87.
The Word of God is not a book. This is partly why we consider you guys not to be Christian. We do not worship a book.
The catholics reject Jesus for man made teachings. Burn your catechism and turn to Jesus - not man. And then repent for being involved with it when you knowingly knew the RCC teachings are deceptive and had to skirt around issues instead of dealing with them.
Jesus is our focus. Not Paul.
Predestination was the accepted position of the early church. It was simply assumed that God's providence ruled the world, as Scripture tells us.
The belief wasn't challenged until the rise of gnosticism in the fourth and fifth centuries when Pelagianism seeped into the church. To combat that error, Augustine articulated a sound defense of God's predestination in his "Treatise of the Predestination of the Saints."
Even Thomas Aquinas was a predestinarian as evidenced here...
The reason for the predestination of some, and reprobation of others, must be sought for in the goodness of God. Thus He is said to have made all things through His goodness, so that the divine goodness might be represented in things. Now it is necessary that God's goodness, which in itself is one and undivided, should be manifested in many ways in His creation…Thus it is that for the completion of the universe there are required different grades of being; some of which hold a high and some a low place in the universe. That this multiformity of grades may be preserved in things, God allows some evils, lest many good things should never happen." -- Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica"God wills to manifest His goodness in men; in respect to those whom He predestines, by means of His mercy, as sparing them; and in respect of others, whom he reprobates, by means of His justice, in punishing them. This is the reason why God elects some and rejects others. To this the Apostle refers, saying: „What if God, willing to show His wrath (that is, the vengeance of His justice), and to make His power known, endured (that is, permitted) with much patience vessels of wrath, fitted for destruction; that He might show the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He hath prepared unto glory...
Absurb claims made by absurb postings. What do you mean by continually? Do you have substance for that claim?
Ask aruanan. He posted some of the excerpts (and he correctly attributed them both as to their authorship and content.)
Since the hall monitor butted in, I will ask you.
You may. My imitation of Christ is less than it should be.
I do not take or eschew action at the bidding of the likes of you.
And it helps to actually read the excerpts.
Do you? Or is that why you post as you do?
The true author was not credited with his work. Instead, Cronos, by not assigning authorship or linking to other websites, led readers to believe the writing was his own.
It wasn't. Again.
Since the excerpts showing Luther’s belief in double predestination were posted by aruanan, ask him for them.
Or do whatever everyone else does on this forum, and read back through the threads.
Don’t keep asking other people to do your homework for you.
Y’know, Cronos, I think Markbsnr really needs to be pinged to your posts on this subject. He seems to be unconvinced that the trinity is taught from Scripture.
No deal!
What if we said 'please'?
No deal!
What if we said 'please'?
No! We have quite enough screwballs of our own without taking in yours!
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