Posted on 01/14/2011 5:57:52 PM PST by topcat54
I don’t care what your denomination is. I have said so many times. It is obviously an inferior excuse for a storefront church, or you’d have learned something.
Which books are those? Could you provide links to that assertion?
Ahhhhh
WRONG.
Your interpretation of what I say, is that.
I gather you’ve ignored or not seeN where I’ve asserted that all will be brought into THE BODY OF CHRIST—ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB AND THEIR DESCENDANTS’ MESSIAH.
Y’ALL SEEM to insist something like that happened in 70AD.
I insist it didn’t.
Yet, Scripture is clear that it IS scheduled . . . in THESE END TIMES.
God is in charge of that timing—not me.
Quit badgering me about something that happened last May. I have not been reprimanded since then about you. I appeal to the RM to remind you.
Cue one of my guffaw pics.
“Still looking for he Proddy one where the pastors have been reassigned and the leadership has been told to keep it quiet.”
Imagine sending a letter of recommendation ahead knowing the offenders actions!
I wonder if Parochial schools have their own special little children’s choruses . . . for training . . .
in this area of Roman Catholocism . . . there MUST be something like
WAILING FOR JESUS!
WAILING FOR JESUS!
COME ALONE AND WHINE WITH ME!
WAILING FOR JESUS!
WAILING FOR JESUS!
KICKING AND SCREAMING ON MARY’S KNEE!
What a joke. The person responsible for the crime is the perpetrator. The church leadership can deal with it by revoking his credentials and turning him in to the authorities, as should be done when a crime has been committed..
I'd still like to see examples of non-Catholic churches which shuffled abusive pastors around and covered it up as the Catholic church has done.
I can go try and find a thawed out garden hose,
MetMom,
if you’d like all that sticky Mother Mary White Hanky’d Sweetness hosed off.
Just providing evidence that I did not lie.
You said I was wrong. I wasn’t.
I guess I made the mistake of presuming you’d want me to back it up if I said so.
Scripture is quite plain on this.
I’m being overwhelmed with Catholic charity today, aren’t I?
What world do you live in? That is not a Catholic's first reaction unless that particular Protestant has already made a big deal about not smoking or drinking and then indulging in secret.
Q: Where is the only place in the world that one Baptist will not recognize another?
A: In the liquor store...
please provide proof of this
from this link:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/hark/2010/05/25/scandal-creates-contempt-for-catholic-clergy/39/
“There is no plausible evidence that Catholic priests are gangs of sexual predators, as they are being portrayed, said Pennsylvania State University Prof. Philip Jenkins, eminent religion and history scholar, and a non-Catholic whos studied the churchs abuse problems for 20 years.
Jenkins said there has been no formal study comparing denominations for rates of child abuse. However, insurers have been assessing the risks since they began offering riders on liability policies in the 1980s. Two of the largest insurers report no higher risks in covering Catholic churches than Protestant denominations.
Wisconsin-based Church Mutual Insurance Co. has 100,000 client churches and has seen a steady filing of about five sexual molestation cases a week for more than a decade, even though its client base has grown.
It would be incorrect to call it a Catholic problem, said Church Mutuals risk control manager, Rick Schaber. We do not see one denomination above another. Its equal. Its also equal among large metropolitan churches and small rural churches.
Iowa-based Guide One Center for Risk Management, which insures more than 40,000 congregations, also said Catholic churches are not considered a greater risk or charged higher premiums.
Our claims experience shows this happens evenly across denominations, said spokeswoman Melanie Stonewall.
from a 2004 FR thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1072105/posts
MINISTERS
The data on the Protestant clergy tends to focus on sexual abuse in general, not on sexual abuse of children. Thus, strict comparisons cannot always be made. But there are some comparative data available on the subject of child sexual molestation, and what has been reported is quite revealing.
In a 1984 survey, 38.6 percent of ministers reported sexual contact with a church member, and 76 percent knew of another minister who had had sexual intercourse with a parishioner.[xiii] In the same year, a Fuller Seminary survey of 1,200 ministers found that 20 percent of theologically conservative pastors admitted to some sexual contact outside of marriage with a church member. The figure jumped to over 40 percent for moderates; 50 percent of liberal pastors confessed to similar behavior.[xiv]
In 1990, in a study by the Park Ridge Center for the Study of Health, Faith and Ethics in Chicago, it was learned that 10 percent of ministers said they had had an affair with a parishioner and about 25 percent admitted some sexual contact with a parishioner.[xv] Two years later, a survey by Leadership magazine found that 37 percent of ministers confessed to having been involved in inappropriate sexual behavior with a parishioner.[xvi]
In a 1993 survey by the Journal of Pastoral Care, 14 percent of Southern Baptist ministers said they had engaged in inappropriate sexual behavior, and 70 percent said they knew a minister who had had such contact with a parishioner.[xvii] Joe E. Trull is co-author of the 1993 book, Ministerial Ethics, and he found that from 30 to 35 percent of ministers of all denominations admit to having sexual relationshipsfrom inappropriate touching to sexual intercourseoutside of marriage.[xviii]
According to a 2000 report to the Baptist General Convention in Texas, The incidence of sexual abuse by clergy has reached horrific proportions. It noted that in studies done in the 1980s, 12 percent of ministers had engaged in sexual intercourse with members and nearly 40 percent had acknowledged sexually inappropriate behavior. The report concluded that The disturbing aspect of all research is that the rate of incidence for clergy exceeds the client-professional rate for physicians and psychologists.[xix] Regarding pornography and sexual addiction, a national survey disclosed that about 20 percent of all ministers are involved in the behavior.[xx]
In the spring of 2002, when the sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic Church was receiving unprecedented attention, the Christian Science Monitor reported on the results of national surveys by Christian Ministry Resources. The conclusion: Despite headlines focusing on the priest pedophile problem in the Roman Catholic Church, most American churches being hit with child sexual-abuse allegations are Protestant, and most of the alleged abusers are not clergy or staff, but church volunteers.[xxi]
Finally, in the authoritative work by Penn State professor Philip Jenkins, Pedophiles and Priests, it was determined that between .2 and 1.7 percent of priests are pedophiles. The figure among the Protestant clergy ranges between 2 and 3 percent.[xxii]
Here’s an interesting website:
“A collection of news reports on ministers who have sexually abused children.”
who’s “Christa” other than a blogger?
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