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Sign Me “Off” For the Christian Jubilee: On the Disturbing trend of “De-Baptisms” in Europe
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 1/12/2011 | Msgr Charles Pope

Posted on 01/12/2011 1:53:42 AM PST by markomalley

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To: John Leland 1789
BTW, as an example of that patrimony, you could take this one that dates from around the beginning of the fifth century (I've seen from around 417-418):

In Latin

In English

In Polish

In Chinese

21 posted on 01/12/2011 5:25:24 PM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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"Unfortunately, many modern Catholic hymnals have way, way, way too many modern Protestant (yes, sola scriptura) hymns in them."

I would assume that some more modern Catholic hymnals would indeed have some Protestant standards in them; ones which would not have lyrics directly in contradiction to Vatican doctrines. And I am aware of some very old Catholic hymnody that has made its way into Protestant hymnals (or had been there since the 16th century anyway).

But the particular songs in illustration in the article are very little known by probably 95% of modern-day "Geneva" Protestants.

Exceptions would be some old-line Presbyterians which have a wilderness camp meeting heritage, and some old-line Wesleyan/Holiness folks which have a similar wilderness camp meeting heritage.

Appalachian Mountain Baptists (who would deny being "Protestant" in the Geneva sense, like us), who also have a camp meeting type heritage (like us), are quite familiar with those songs and 500 more like them.

Many hymnals used in Baptist churches, published by (not-necessarily Baptist) commercial publishing houses since WWII would contain three dozen or so (out of, say 500 titles) hymns of the Geneva Protestant variety.

What was called the old "Red Back Hymnal," Church Hymnal, originally published for the Church of God, Cleveland, TN, contains, overwhelmingly, songs from the camp meeting heritage, written between 1875 and 1940.

Most of those are quite uplifting and hopeful melodies with rich harmonies (almost "Barber Shop") written especially for acappella singing (seemingly a lost art in churches today). Quite perky, without employing worldly popular styles. Of course, they would concentrate on themes of heaven, the Lord's help in trials, testimony of knowing Christ, the Cross, and the Second Coming of Christ.

The titles mentioned are definitely in that hymnal.

22 posted on 01/12/2011 8:59:54 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful.)
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"Unfortunately, many modern Catholic hymnals have way, way, way too many modern Protestant (yes, sola scriptura) hymns in them."

I would assume that some more modern Catholic hymnals would indeed have some Protestant standards in them; ones which would not have lyrics directly in contradiction to Vatican doctrines. And I am aware of some very old Catholic hymnody that has made its way into Protestant hymnals (or had been there since the 16th century anyway).

But the particular songs in illustration in the article are very little known by probably 95% of modern-day "Geneva" Protestants.

Exceptions would be some old-line Presbyterians which have a wilderness camp meeting heritage, and some old-line Wesleyan/Holiness folks which have a similar wilderness camp meeting heritage.

Appalachian Mountain Baptists (who would deny being "Protestant" in the Geneva sense, like us), who also have a camp meeting type heritage (like us), are quite familiar with those songs and 500 more like them.

Many hymnals used in Baptist churches, published by (not-necessarily Baptist) commercial publishing houses since WWII would contain three dozen or so (out of, say 500 titles) hymns of the Geneva Protestant variety.

What was called the old "Red Back Hymnal," Church Hymnal, originally published for the Church of God, Cleveland, TN, contains, overwhelmingly, songs from the camp meeting heritage, written between 1875 and 1940.

Most of those are quite uplifting and hopeful melodies with rich harmonies (almost "Barber Shop") written especially for acappella singing (seemingly a lost art in churches today). Quite perky, without employing worldly popular styles. Of course, they would concentrate on themes of heaven, the Lord's help in trials, testimony of knowing Christ, the Cross, and the Second Coming of Christ.

The titles mentioned are definitely in that hymnal.

23 posted on 01/12/2011 9:01:39 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful.)
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My baptism has been rendered null and void since I converted to Judaism.


24 posted on 02/19/2012 5:50:21 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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