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but I think America is in bigger trouble than Islam is, ya think?

Not at all. America has serious moral failings, but we recognize those failings. We have child rapists, but we prosecute them, not wrap them in the mantle of "marriage". We have one night stands, but we don't try to justify them as "pleasure marriages." We are immodest, but we don't use modesty as a justification to mutilate little girls.

We have our serious moral failings, but we don't wrap them in language of "good." We're more honest. We have multiple divorce and remarriage, but we don't try to call it good by having multiple wives. We have naked women advertising everything, but we don't treat womens' bodies as evil in the name of modesty.

So yeah, America's got issues, but we don't try to justify those issues by lying and calling them good, wrapping them in the virtues that God gave us. America's got honesty in her corner.

Really good points mockingbyrd. It's making me think. Thanks for writing!

you wrote: "Not at all. America has serious moral failings, but we recognize those failings."

Do you really think we realize how far we've fallen? I mean apart from comparing ourselves to Islam which I believe is doomed, but then, so was Babylon.

I think we're all so used to it that we don't even realize how bad we are compared to purity. My son told me in the 10th grade he didn't even know any virgins. Maybe it's because I live in California but still.

We're not closer to being right just because Islam is wronger. You said we don't try to justify our issues by lying and calling them good, but, um, I think we flat out do, just not the same way as Islam.

Again, maybe it's because I'm in California.

You wrote,"America's got honesty in her corner."

mockingbyrd, in THIS corner, from what I see on the left coast, I think honesty is far from us. We're pretty much deluded and drowning in moral decay while we open up churches that claim the Bible has it all wrong and God said: [insert whatever is popular today.]"

I think we're in really big trouble and it's not because we were innocently sleeping.