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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Try again. Post 334 was defending the position that the Vatican had bound itself to a treaty in 1871 and was receiving sovereignty from Italy in exchange for lauding Mussolini. The issues under discussion are the Italian law of 1871, the agreement of 1929, and Vatican Sovereignty. They do indirectly influence the discussion of the issues that you raise in your “response” but all the issues that you raise post-date what is under disussion.

The Hitler angle has been amptly dealt with on this thread—but you butted into a discussion on Papal sovereignty from 1871-1929. Leo XIII and his three successors, far from being inept, were brilliant. Rome did not receive sovereignty from Mussolini, an assertion that started this line or argument, because Rome had been careful never to cede sovereignty.

So, read post 334, which you praised in post 350, read post 346 with links so that you will get an idea of what is being discussed, and then defend what you have praised. I trust that the recent link will aid you in navigating these three posts. My computer skills aren’t all that they might be.


490 posted on 01/04/2011 10:23:41 PM PST by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Hieronymus

lol. Thanks, but I’ll pass on your endless affidavits as to Rome’s “brilliance.”

You have yet to answer any of the objections raised against Pacelli.

As usual, in absence of any defense, the subject is changed, deflected, lost in a garble of inconsequential nit-picking.


491 posted on 01/04/2011 10:28:17 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose))
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To: Hieronymus

This is typical. It’s a game.


496 posted on 01/04/2011 11:17:48 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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