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To: maryz

That’s the kind of moral evasion I would expect from Ford motor company, Bayer, etc. The church has a higher duty to loudly oppose evil. Hitler was an altar boy at some point. Several of his cohorts had been catholics too. The church was aware that many catholics had fallen into error by supporting the nazis. They did wrong by not throwing all their moral weight into the fight. There’s no excuse for them not clearly stating that if you are a member of the nazi our communist partyparty, you are excommunicated. Anything else is papal bull, an evasion.

The way the church today is clear on abortion is an example of how they should have acted back then.


152 posted on 01/03/2011 1:36:46 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino

Would you call this moral evasion?
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge_en.html

Unless you have read the encyclical that you will find at the above link, I think that you are ignorant of what the Church actually did.


157 posted on 01/03/2011 1:48:11 PM PST by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: DesertRhino

You can’t be excommunicated if you’re not part of the Church. That’s not evasion — it’s just fact.


161 posted on 01/03/2011 1:51:47 PM PST by maryz
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To: DesertRhino
That’s the kind of moral evasion I would expect from Ford motor company, Bayer, etc. The church has a higher duty to loudly oppose evil. Hitler was an altar boy at some point. Several of his cohorts had been catholics too. The church was aware that many catholics had fallen into error by supporting the nazis. They did wrong by not throwing all their moral weight into the fight. There’s no excuse for them not clearly stating that if you are a member of the nazi our communist partyparty, you are excommunicated. Anything else is papal bull, an evasion.

The way the church today is clear on abortion is an example of how they should have acted back then.

Except that even on the abortion issue today, the church is all talk and precious little action.

There's basically no difference.

189 posted on 01/03/2011 2:24:27 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DesertRhino
" Hitler was an altar boy at some point."

As is demonstrated by several of the evil anti-Catholics it is not where you begin your path to Salvation, but where you end it. Hitler, like his sympathetic anti-Catholic posters, began life as a Catholic, but choose a different course.

196 posted on 01/03/2011 2:38:39 PM PST by Natural Law (In Hoc Signo Vinces)
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