To: farmer matt
If we toss out Scripture alone, then what is the Churchs doctrine based on?
The Church’s doctrine is based upon divine revelation, which is a grace. Some of this revelation was written down by the Church. And, if you are of the mind of St. Augustine, and believe the Church, you then believe the scriptures because the Church says that you should.
“I would not believe the holy Gospels if it were not for the authority of the Holy Catholic Church.” (If you want a work and section citation for the quote from Augustine, I could dig it up, but google isn’t bringing up people for me at the moment who are so precise).
If you want to read the official teaching, here is a link. http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19651118_dei-verbum_en.htmlChrist taught, the Church
101 posted on
01/03/2011 12:42:01 PM PST by
Hieronymus
(It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton)
To: Hieronymus
I would not believe the holy Gospels if it were not for the authority of the Holy Catholic Church.
That is a logical fallacy. It’s akin to saying that I would not believe in the Constitution except for the authority of the United States Government. While liberals embrace this nonsense, I don’t.
Likewise, to say the the Roman Catholic Church holds a greater authority than do the words of Jesus, Moses, Elijah, Peter, Paul, Matthew, James, David, and etc. is to, as I paraphrase 2 Timothy 3:5:
**Have a form of godliness but to deny the power thereof.**
The authority of the RCC does not ever exceed the authority of the Word.
110 posted on
01/03/2011 12:57:27 PM PST by
MeganC
(January 20, 2013 - President Sarah Palin)
To: Hieronymus; farmer matt
The Churchs doctrine is based upon divine revelation, which is a grace. Some of this revelation was written down by the Church. And, if you are of the mind of St. Augustine, and believe the Church, you then believe the scriptures because the Church says that you should. I would not believe the holy Gospels if it were not for the authority of the Holy Catholic Church. (If you want a work and section citation for the quote from Augustine, I could dig it up, but google isnt bringing up people for me at the moment who are so precise).And how do you know that the revelation is of God and not Satan or men? What is it held against for a measuring rod?
185 posted on
01/03/2011 2:20:52 PM PST by
RnMomof7
(Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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