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Delph I have pointed out that polygamy is Biblical.

Well, David slept with Bathsheba. (Does that make adultery "Biblical"???)

Yes, it is biblical, Adultery was soundly condemned in the Bible, in fact the very serial polygamy we have now of Divorce and remarriage was condemned personally by Jesus (Matthew 5:31-32)

God told Hosea to marry a prostitute who continued to carry on that as a "cottage industry." (Does that make prostitution as your wife's "job" "Biblical," DU?)

No, it does not, she was still condemned in the scriptures.

God told Isaiah to walk around three years' naked (Is. 20:2-4). (Does that make exhibitionism "Biblical," DU?)

As usual, you're getting silly. Besides, waiting around naked,where I live, and well you wouldn't have to worry about prostitution... (Frostbite)

What a crock! You lack such basic discernment!

Back at you. Jesus fasted for Forty days, so did Moses, I don't think people should fast for 40 days (24 hours, sure, a couple of days maybe, 40 days, nope!)

DU, while we all have blinders somewhere, what's truly pathetic is your export yours on matters in which your basic lack of understanding has been exposed like Isaiah's private parts!

Your analogy is... disturbing, not going to go there.

So, you admit you have blinders? OK, have you ever considered what your posts will look like in retrospect when we turn out to be right and your "blinders" kept you from seeing it?

I didn't think so.

Tell us, DU, where God told ANYBODY to "go and get an extra wife?" (or something similar)

When David murdered Uriah, Nathan the prophet came to him and said: 2 Samual 12:7-8

7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;
8 And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master’s wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.

So, God told David that he gave him all his wives, and would have given him more if that was too little. I believe this covers your "Go get another wife".

Logic 101: If God ever approved of Polygamy, and God does not change then God approves of polygamy now.

It's simple logic really.

Let me say that I am very happily married to Mrs. DelphiUser and have no plans or desire to practice the illegal, but moral practice of polygamy. nor do I plan to practice the legal but immoral practice of abortion.

My main point with polygamy is and always has been that:
Our laws, and our culture do not dictate God's law.
God's law should dictate our morals and in large part our laws.

God's law does not even seem to influence our laws anymore, this should be a problem for Conservatives, even if you don't like Mormons personally, you should agree with us logically on conservatism.

Your opinion probably varies, and that's OK too.

Delph

My main point with polygamy is and always has been that: Our laws, and our culture do not dictate God's law. God's law should dictate our morals and in large part our laws.

Sorry...but you cannot point to any part of the Bible where God's "law" reads: "Thou shalt practice polygamy."

In fact, God's admonitions in Deut. 17:17 and Lev. 18:18 are to the opposite -- that polygamy would draw away men's hearts from God -- which is EXACTLY what happened to Solomon (1 Kings 11).

God told Hosea to marry a prostitute who continued to carry on that as a "cottage industry." (Does that make prostitution as your wife's "job" "Biblical," DU?) [My previous post]
No, it does not, she was still condemned in the scriptures. [DU}

Wow! Your brain wires can't possibly be that disconnected, can they? Didn't you -- moments after you wrote the above statement -- later say in the same response to me: Logic 101: If God ever approved of Polygamy, and God does not change then God approves of polygamy now. It's simple logic really.

Well, based upon what you said here -- and this time with a contextual application re: Hosea's relationship w/Gomer -- does your "Simple Logic 101" apply there?

Look @ that relationship only from Hosea's angle (not Gomer's). Did God "approve" that relationship, DU?

Of course He did! He told Hosea to marry her!

Thereby, exercising your "Simple Logic 101 extended: "If God ever approved of a MAN marrying a prostitute who carried on her trade post-marriage, and God does not change then God approves of men marrying practicing prostitutes now. It's simple logic really." [DU's "Simple Logic Maxim 101a]

DU, if you can't be consistent here, just give it up.

When David murdered Uriah, Nathan the prophet came to him and said: 2 Samual 12:7-8...8 And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master’s wives into thy bosom...So, God told David that he gave him all his wives, and would have given him more if that was too little. I believe this covers your "Go get another wife".

DU, if you know how to read the Bible in context then you know 2 Sam. 16:21-22 references these SAME EXACT women as "concubines" -- otherwise know as slave-women that David the King inherited from Saul (to be crass, they "came with the furniture").

21 Ahithophel answered, “Sleep with your father’s concubines whom he left to take care of the palace. Then all Israel will hear that you have made yourself obnoxious to your father, and the hands of everyone with you will be more resolute.” 22 So they pitched a tent for Absalom on the roof, and he slept with his father’s concubines in the sight of all Israel."

The underlying Hebrew word for "wives" in 2 Sam. 8 was just as frequently used for "women." Were they David's women? Yes, of course. They were his slaves inherited as part of the kingdom. They were his concubines. Did he sleep with them as a man would sleep with his wife? Probably. (Not sure).

But, I guess to be consistent, we'll apply DU's "Simple Logic 101" here, too: "If God ever approved of owning slave girls that could be used sexually -- concubines, and God does not change then God approves of owning slave girls that could be used sexually -- concubines -- now." [DU's "Simple Logic Maxim 101b"]

ALL: Do you see where DU's "simple logic" gets him in trouble?...He interprets God's allowance of imperfect relationships -- as if God sanctioned them!

And once he commits to this premise re: polygamy, then he MUST be consistent & apply it in parallel form to God's order of Hosea to marry a practicing prostitute -- and to David's inheritance of concubines in his kingdom.

What's worse is that DU -- the Mormon apologist -- then "fast forwards" polygamy as applicable today because he doesn't believe the God-who-(he thinks) sanctions polygamy doesn't change. Well, now DU is "stuck." Because, having assumed that posture publicly, on what grounds does the God who thinks it was OK for Hosea to marry a practicing prostitute change? On what what grounds does the God who thinks it was OK for David to inherit sexual concubines change?

Before you know it, DU the Mormon apologist is 100% embracing contemporary slave-girl sexual trafficking and men who marry practicing prostitutes! (Oh, don't worry, God still condemns the prostitute...but apparently NOT the husband-prostitute wife marriage arrangement!)

All I can say on the sexual trafficking is hey, DU, at least you're being consistent in applying Joseph Smith 134:12 to your contemporary ethics (otherwise known as D&C 134:12 -- a verse where Smith sanctioned slavery!)