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To: Syncro
I appreciate your understanding for many in my youth held to that belief that Jehovah was God the Father which was universal.

Now that more understanding has come into the earth many realized Jehovah is the Son YAWA etc.

To the LDS Elohim is the Father.

This Isa 43 Jehovah was the only God formed" I paraphased it that way because the verse states none before, and none afterward,

These verses are all taken from the Blue Bible gateway.

KJV

Isa 43:10 Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

NIV

Isa 43:10 "You are my witnesses," declares the Lord, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.

NASB

Isa 43:10 "You are My witnesses," declares the LORD, "And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me.

377 posted on 01/03/2011 12:47:00 AM PST by restornu (Focus on the issues not the group think stink bombs!)
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To: restornu; Alamo-Girl
Well restornu, no God formed doesn't presuppose that God was formed. Unless He formed Himself.

The point of that scripture isn't on the word "formed" but on the fact that he is the Alpha and The Omega, as is Jesus.

It's quite clear from gathering many scriptures ( instead of just one that uses the word formed, which I would have to check the Hebrew to see it's real meaning) that God is one God and was not "formed" by a sexual union with another god before him.

Now about the title YAWA (or Yhwh) from which comes Jehovah you can read below and see it is the Father God and not Jesus except in the sense that God, Son, and the Holy Spirit make up the One True God:

Interestingly, the Name of God “YHwH” is often translated “The Lord” in the Old Testament. It means “He IS”

In appearance, Yhwh () is the third person singular imperfect "ḳal" of the verb ("to be"), meaning, therefore, "He is," or "He will be," or, perhaps, "He lives," the root idea of the word being,probably, "to blow," "to breathe," and hence, "to live." With this explanation agrees the meaning of the name given in Ex. iii. 14, where God is represented as speaking, and hence as using the first person—"I am" (, from , the later equivalent of the archaic stem ). The meaning would, therefore, be "He who is self-existing, self-sufficient," or, more concretely, "He who lives," the abstract conception of pure existence being foreign to Hebrew thought. There is no doubt that the idea of life was intimately connected with the name Yhwh from early times. He is the living God, as contrasted with the lifeless gods of the heathen, and He is the source and author of life (comp. I Kings xviii.; Isa. xli. 26-29, xliv. 6-20; Jer. x. 10, 14; Gen. ii. 7; etc.). So familiar is this conception of God to the Hebrew mind that it appears in the common formula of an oath, "ḥai Yhwh" (= "as Yhwh lives"; Ruth iii. 13; I Sam. xiv. 45; etc.).
That bit came from a post on this thread by FR member Alamo Girl, who is highly respected on this forum for her Biblical wisdom and knowledge.

LINK

You would do well to read that whole post of hers, it could very well speak to your heart.

379 posted on 01/03/2011 1:18:43 AM PST by Syncro
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