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To: DelphiUser; MHGinTN; Syncro; reaganaut; T Minus Four; greyfoxx39; Elsie; Godzilla
Thank you for your reply, dear DelphiUser, and your good will!

However, I again aver that the LDS doctrine that God the Father had a Father who had a Father and so on cannot be dismissed with a hand wave.

Nor can His Name I AM be dismissed with a hand wave.

Legerdemain is a magician’s trick – getting the audience to watch one hand while the other is doing something else. Like secrets of any kind, it has no place among preachers.

Clarity and simplicity are crucial in declaring Who Christ IS.

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him]. - 2 Cor 11:3-4

And so I find myself in the disquieting position of needing to finish your sentences as follows:

In post 784 you testified that “We have one God.” but based on the rest of that post, the sentence should be finished as follows ”We LDS have one God, the heavenly Father, who is relevant to us; the Heavenly Father’s Father, Grandfather, etc. are irrelevant.”

And in post 1688 you said ” I AM is definitely one of God's names.” but based on the previous post 784 (and others such as MHGinTN’s post 1691) that sentence should be finished as follows ”We LDS recognize that I AM is definitely one of God’s names in the same respect that I am and you are and he is - which is not in the Judeo/Christian meaning of YHwH (He IS) that there was no one, no time and no thing before Him (Alpha) and that there will be no one, no time and no thing after Him (Omega.)”

Again I aver that the issue of “Who God IS” cannot be dismissed with a hand wave.

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. - Revelation 1:7-8

"Hallowed be thy Name..."

And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place. Ye shall not do so unto the LORD your God. - Deuteronomy 12:3-4


1,815 posted on 01/05/2011 9:33:31 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; DelphiUser; MHGinTN; Syncro; reaganaut; T Minus Four; greyfoxx39; Elsie
And in post 1688 you said ” I AM is definitely one of God's names.”

According to mormon doctrine the 'god' you worship is named Elohim - a being with flesh and bone that was once a mortal man and progressed to being a god.

Mormons don't worship Jehovah -the premortal name of Jesus - any more because Elohim is the object of your worship. The 'god of this world' eh.

The Holy Ghost is another 'god' albeit lacking a body separate from the others.

Who is El Echad Du in mormon polytheism?

Who is El Shaddai in the mormon pantheon of gods? Du

Who is Immanuel in the mormon pantheon of gods du?

Who is ergo eimi in the mormon pantheon of gods du?

Who is hayah in the mormon pantheon of gods du?

1,898 posted on 01/05/2011 10:29:23 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Alamo-Girl; DelphiUser

.......”LDS recognize that I AM is definitely one of God’s names in the same respect that I am and you are and he is - which is NOT in the Judeo/Christian meaning of YHwH (He IS)... that there was no one, no time and no thing before Him (Alpha) and that there will be no one, no time and no thing after Him (Omega.)”.......”

Beautiful and with clarity and distinction AG.


2,076 posted on 01/05/2011 10:10:33 PM PST by caww
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