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To: Syncro

>Your list of Apostles is a list of straw men.

It is not my list; it is history. I merely call attention to the fact that the word “apostle” has more meanings that only the 12 who traveled with Jesus. The word has been used throughout history by various churches to describe someone their religion considers to have been “called” to be a messenger. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostle_%28Christian%29

>In the first century , there were 12 Apostles, 12 disciples.

You are incorrect; there were at least fourteen apostles. You overlook Matthias, who was chosen to replace Judas. You also overlook Paul, who became an apostle after the death of the Savior.

You are also incorrect about the disciples. Jesus had scores, perhaps even hundreds of disciples during his lifetime.
Quote — “The term apostle ... should not be confused with a disciple (who is a follower or a student who learns from a “teacher”).” See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostle_%28Christian%29

>Your question at the end of your missive is a moot point...

My questions were directly specifically to Mr. Robinson.It is for him to decide whether he considers them moot or wishes to answer them.


1,662 posted on 01/04/2011 8:23:28 PM PST by Clique
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To: Clique

Oops. I forgot the Apostle Barnabas. (Acts 14:14)

Sorry.


1,665 posted on 01/04/2011 8:45:20 PM PST by Clique
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To: Clique

"Your list of Apostles is a list of straw men."

It is not my list; it is history

Nit picking, you know what I meant.

In the first century , there were 12 Apostles, 12 disciples.

You are incorrect; there were at least fourteen apostles. You overlook Matthias, who was chosen to replace Judas. You also overlook Paul, who became an apostle after the death of the Savior.

That's immaterial to my point. If it is that important to you, what about Barnabas?

Obviously the history lesson is superfluous to this conversation, but thanks anyway.

My point was that that the 12 originals were unique.

Disciples and Apostles.

Yes I know, I didn't say original, and that gave you the opening to continue the history lesson, not pertainate to this communication.

The point is that Christians relate to the original Apostles as being Apostles of Jesus Christ, not someone who declares himself such with no overseeing authority so as to give credence to a false belief system.

As far as the question to Mr. Robinson (I was only speaking about one of them, not both) it's much too hypothetical imo.

Catholics would never post a title like you suggested.

But good luck, maybe you will get a hypothetical answer!

1,675 posted on 01/04/2011 9:09:27 PM PST by Syncro
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