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Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ
LDS.org ^ | Dennis B. Neuenschwander

Posted on 01/02/2011 5:46:30 PM PST by Paragon Defender

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To: MHGinTN

I said he did not argue *Torah* with them...He did not try to prove himself right....


1,881 posted on 01/05/2011 10:15:57 AM PST by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: Syncro

It wasnt till the mid 1980s that the mormons even claimed a mormon holy ghost...

Before that they used to tell me there was no such “thing”

2 mormon missionaries were riding by on theirt bikes as I was walking down the street...

they got in my way on the sidewalk forcing me to stop...

I knew who or what they were but I didnt tell them...

I thought “desperation” that they would attack a Christian that way but I let they start their speil...

Then I said “no thanks, I’m a Christian”

They happily said “We are Christians too”

That was a shock to me a first also...

But as I was used to the games and lies I played along...

I had pity on those 2 ignorant kids and prepared to teach them something...

Knowing already that the mormons denied the deity of Jesus and the Trinity I went straight there...

I mentioned that the mormons dont believe in the Trinity

They asked “Whats that?”

I said “God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost”

“Oh yes” they brightly exclaimed “We believe in the holy ghost”

after decades of being told by mormons that there was no such thing and used to the lies and tricks I knew there was some subtefuge in there somewhere ...

I left them shortly after, but I had had a new lesson in the foul cheat that is mormonism..

for mormons to add to their repertoire of lies a “holy ghost” without blinking an eye at their blasphemy or disrespect for God is an example of how far they will go in their obsession for ill gotten riches received through “tithes” and “offerings” from more easily and quickly “converted new slaves....already religious nominal Christians..

and to what length the devil will go to steal Christians from God...

The mormon cult go after Christians with more fevor than they do any other belief or creed...


1,882 posted on 01/05/2011 10:16:12 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Talking about the Freepmail and its content is the same thing as copying it onto a thread.

Drop the subject or leave the thread.

1,883 posted on 01/05/2011 10:16:23 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: TaraP; reaganaut
You really should take a break and see Christ for who he truly is.....

Oh, that's funny! Yeah Reaganaut, take a break, LOL!

1,884 posted on 01/05/2011 10:17:53 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: Normandy; SZonian; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; SENTINEL

Getting Mormons to see the problems with Mormonism, the hereseies and lies is difficult.

I had no intention of ever leaving Mormonism, or fighting the Mormon church, yet here I am because God delivered me.

I hated those who ‘attacked’ my mormonism, but I respected them more than the gentle ones who said nothing because if they fought for their faith then the really believed it.

The ‘attack’ approach worked with me, it worked with Rocky Hulse, it worked with Jerald and Sandra Tanner, it worked with Szonian and Sentinel, and millions of others.

You have to see that not all is well in Zion, that Mormonism isn’t ‘true’, that it isn’t biblically sound, then we can start to talk about what is true and what the Bible REALLY says.


1,885 posted on 01/05/2011 10:19:37 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: eastforker
"Is it so hard to accept some one elses belief as thier path through life without trying to convert them to their own personal view?"

Would it be so hard to ask SLC to do the same? A simple thing, like recalling their 52,000+ mormon missionaries, plus innumerable ward and stake missionaries plus all the "every member a missionary" missionaries who go around knocking on doors telling folks their beliefs are wrong?

A handful of FReepers rebutting and refuting mormon doctrine sure causes a lot of twisted knickers around here.

Sorry you find this comic relief. IMO, it demonstrates a lack of discernment or comprehension regarding the beliefs of others.

1,886 posted on 01/05/2011 10:20:40 AM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: TaraP; colorcountry; T Minus Four; caww

LOL.

You mentioned you grew up JW, you gave that info out. JWs are another pseudo-Christian cult. And where you are in your walk with Christ is evident by your posts - not far along.

And I know Christ for who He really is, and I am grateful to be saved. and i find it VERY VERY amusing that you keep saying we shouldn’t fight or condemn other Christians yet here you are saying I don’t know who Christ really is.

That is rich.


1,887 posted on 01/05/2011 10:22:26 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: TaraP; reaganaut
I hated those who ‘attacked’ my mormonism, but I respected them more than the gentle ones who said nothing because if they fought for their faith then the really believed it.

Word

1,888 posted on 01/05/2011 10:23:42 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; Religion Moderator

Of course why would he tell me not to ping you. I didn’t stoop to your level

- - - - -
Because you keep using it as troll bait. And you stoop much much lower than anything I could ever do.

/troll feeding


1,889 posted on 01/05/2011 10:23:57 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Religion Moderator; MHGinTN
Talking about the Freepmail and its content is the same thing as copying it onto a thread. Drop the subject or leave the thread.

Consider it dropped. I would only ask you to read post 1808 and realize the subject was not initiated by me.

1,890 posted on 01/05/2011 10:25:07 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: restornu
"Then again maybe it would be best not to have a Religion Forum and just unite on the Godly principles that unites us as a people to keep the constitution strong."

Then again maybe it would be best for those who can't handle an open forum just to move along to some protected place.

IMHO

1,891 posted on 01/05/2011 10:27:23 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Oh my heck, what are you, six?


1,892 posted on 01/05/2011 10:27:23 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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To: colorcountry; TaraP

I think Tara is confusing a Mormon Temple with a Mormon Chapel. She really knows nothing of Mormonism, that is very clear so it would be a common mistake.


1,893 posted on 01/05/2011 10:27:37 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut; Religion Moderator
Because you keep using it as troll bait. And you stoop much much lower than anything I could ever do. /troll feeding

I'm confident in the facts.

1,894 posted on 01/05/2011 10:27:48 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: reaganaut; Normandy
The ‘attack’ approach worked with me, it worked with Rocky Hulse, it worked with Jerald and Sandra Tanner, it worked with Szonian and Sentinel, and millions of others.

Worked for me! :D

1,895 posted on 01/05/2011 10:27:48 AM PST by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: T Minus Four

I found it amusing as well.


1,896 posted on 01/05/2011 10:28:47 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Jim Robinson
Exactly.

Thick skin is required for open religious debate.

1,897 posted on 01/05/2011 10:29:15 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Alamo-Girl; DelphiUser; MHGinTN; Syncro; reaganaut; T Minus Four; greyfoxx39; Elsie
And in post 1688 you said ” I AM is definitely one of God's names.”

According to mormon doctrine the 'god' you worship is named Elohim - a being with flesh and bone that was once a mortal man and progressed to being a god.

Mormons don't worship Jehovah -the premortal name of Jesus - any more because Elohim is the object of your worship. The 'god of this world' eh.

The Holy Ghost is another 'god' albeit lacking a body separate from the others.

Who is El Echad Du in mormon polytheism?

Who is El Shaddai in the mormon pantheon of gods? Du

Who is Immanuel in the mormon pantheon of gods du?

Who is ergo eimi in the mormon pantheon of gods du?

Who is hayah in the mormon pantheon of gods du?

1,898 posted on 01/05/2011 10:29:23 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: T Minus Four
Oh my heck, what are you, six?

That's still 2 years older than you apparently. :-)

1,899 posted on 01/05/2011 10:29:42 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Jim Robinson; restornu

Waiting for Resty to argue with JR

3.....2....1....


1,900 posted on 01/05/2011 10:29:54 AM PST by T Minus Four ("Vital truths were restored by God through Joseph Smith. I just can't think of one")
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