Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ

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[Elsie]

I promise people they can have the same answer as mine if they will just follow the steps, I teach people to pray.

"Lord; teach US to pray..."

[Elsie]

Name him.

That's EASY!

PERSONAGE #1!

--MormonDude(and #2 as well; I think - uh, hope - but that could change with new revelation. We're waiting for it all the time, you know.)

[Elsie]

I don’t know either of my grandfathers first names or what they looked like!

I’m still better off than so many today who don’t even know who their father WAS, I guess.

[Elsie]

I have miles to go before I sleep...

[Hoodat]

And at the end of the third quarter, the score is:

Mormons - 453
Baptists - 392
Catholics - 138
Lutherans - 37
Mennonites - 2

[colorcountry]

Don’t you think that Mormons have enough places to go discuss their theology without posting in-your-face, “Joseph Smith is a Prophet” caucus threads on FreeRepublic?

Let me tell you, when I was Mormon, we had three meetings on Sunday and one during the week, plus Family Home Evening on Monday, and once-per-month homemaking activities, regional Stake conferences each trimester, and semi-annual General Conference. The outlines of the beliefs are specifically stated in each meeting and no dissension is allowed there. I suggest they go to one of THOSE meetings if all they want to do is scratch each others backs and stroke their own “holier than thou, my religion is the only TRUE religion” egos.

In fact, I question the veracity of any caucus thread for any group. If freepers want to talk privately amongst themselves, there is always freepmail.

[MHGinTN]

Do you stumble the same way when the sexual degenerates get ‘in your face’ with their moral rot? ... The poster who started this thread was purposely doing an ‘in your face’ posting, and tried to protect that ‘in your face’ behavior by playing ‘caucus’ pool. If you're a Mormon, I can see why you ‘feel’ insulted and are now going to ‘take your ball and leave’ in a huff. If you're not a Mormon then you have fallen prey to exactly what the little poster was trying to accomplish with this thread titled as it was and trying to protect that in your face spittle with the caucus designation. Frankly, your whiny post smacks of the victimology of mormonism, which is like an anchor to the soul of those captured in the non-Christian religion of Joseph Smith & co.

[Elsie]

 So do you also mark up writings from the Jews? Catholics? Seventh Day Adventist?

Yes; if I come across them.

 

Do you keep the Sabbath?

No; I am not a JEW.  The 'LAW' was given to them, not me.  I do not drive the speed limit of Jerusalem when in Indianapolis.

 

Have you given up all your material goods to the poor and followed Christ?

No; I am not THAT rich young ruler.

 

What are you trying to gain?

Hmmm... Good question.

 

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Luke 18:18-23 NIV

 ¹⁸ A certain ruler asked him, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

 ¹⁹ “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. ²⁰ You know the commandments: ‘You shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.’”

 ²¹ “All these I have kept since I was a boy,” he said.

 ²² When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

 ²³ When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was very wealthy.

 

 

[Elsie]

Do I have any choice in the matter?

Think TIMESHARE...

But, since TIME will be no more...

HMmm...

Do worry: ALL will be revealed then!

[Elsie]

Do I have any choice in the matter?

Think TIMESHARE...

But, since TIME will be no more...

HMmm...

Don't worry: ALL will be revealed then!

[Elsie]

I spend time witnessing to homosexuals about Sin and Salvation and how GOD can overcome anything and everything where Man cannot..

 

 

Oh!!

Me too!

This is what I use!

 

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Genesis 13:13
 Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21 
  Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house. 

They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." 

Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape.....

Genesis 13:13
 Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21 
  Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house. 

They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." 

Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

      More?

[Normandy]

“Smith and Moroni both testified that Jesus has not come in the flesh, i.e. in D and C or BOM it says that Jesus was SPIRIT when Thomas put his hands in the wounds”

I have never read that in either the Book of Mormon or the Doctrine and Covenants.

On the contrary, we read in 3 Nephi that Jesus appeared to the Nephites in the flesh and invited the people to come to him and see.

3 Nephi 11:14 “Arise and come forth unto me, that ye may thrust your hands into my side, and also that ye may feel the prints of the nails in my hands and in my feet, that ye may know that I am the God of Israel, and the God of the whole earth, and have been slain for the sins of the world.

15 And it came to pass that the multitude went forth, and thrust their hands into his side, and did feel the prints of the nails in his hands and in his feet; and this they did do, going forth one by one until they had all gone forth, and did see with their eyes and did feel with their hands, and did know of a surety and did bear record, that it was he, of whom it was written by the prophets, that should come.”

[Elsie]

 

 

Any thread where The MAN himself shows up is a SURE distance runner!

Why; I predict that this will go over, let's say... 1200!

1,225 posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 11:08:59 PM by Elsie

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I is TRULY a Prophet!!!

 

Worship me!!

[Elsie]

I assume if you think all Mormons are going to H*ll then so are all these other people of faiths..

That assuming stuff gets me in trouble all the time!

But that "IF" is a really good qualifier to toss in to keep from really getting pinned down.

[Elsie]

Jesus proved that both Jew AND Gentile had no division..He grafted gentiles into GOD’s Family.

And then???

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Acts 15

The Council at Jerusalem

 ¹ Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” ² This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. ³ The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. ⁴ When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

 ⁵ Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

 ⁶ The apostles and elders met to consider this question. ⁷ After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. ⁸ God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. ⁹ He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. ¹⁰ Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? ¹¹ No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

 ¹² The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. ¹³ When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. ¹⁴ Simon^[a] has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. ¹⁵ The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

 ¹⁶ “‘After this I will return
   and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
   and I will restore it,
¹⁷ that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
   even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things’^[b]—
 ¹⁸ things known from long ago.^[c]

 ¹⁹ “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. ²⁰ Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. ²¹ For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

The Council’s Letter to Gentile Believers

 ²² Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. ²³ With them they sent the following letter:

   The apostles and elders, your brothers,

   To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

   Greetings.

 ²⁴ We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. ²⁵ So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— ²⁶ men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. ²⁷ Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. ²⁸ It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: ²⁹ You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

   Farewell.

 ³⁰ So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. ³¹ The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. ³² Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. ³³ After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. ^{[34] [d] 35} But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.

 

[Normandy]

Hi Elsie,

Are you suggesting that a change in behavior, and not just a confession of faith, is required to inherit the kingdom of God?

Regards,

Normandy

[Elsie]

Hitch up the goats and move that cart along...

I want to do that!

Our county seat has a parade in the summer and all KINDS of things are going down the street!

Crazy cars, minature locomotives, tiny horses pulling a little wagon, poor dogs with pink tutus on, marching veterans, and laughing kids and Shriners!

I can barely get a goat to abide a leash, so I don't know how 4, together, in a harness would work, but I'm willing to try!

Keep tuned to this station for more updates.

[Elsie]

“...my people perish...”

[Elsie]

I do not see scripture with Jesus strong arming people to believe in him.......

"...go into the highways and hedges and COMPEL them to come in."

[Elsie]

Got FENCE?